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In reply to the discussion: Obamacare is Single Payer with a time delay [View all]uselessobot
(43 posts)64. I do not think you really understand the bigger picture
The GOP efforts to repeal Obamacare is a side show and linked in with continued GOP nullification efforts.
In the mean time HC costs will rise and the system will become even worse and more people will do without HC and Democrats will get the blame for Obamacare over the next few years. Great suffering is going to happen before single payer becomes a reality. Case in point:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022556033
This is the price of pragmatism.
I hope you think it is worth it, I do not.
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I'd like to believe this proclamation, but upon what do you base it? n/t
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#3
My premiums in effect dropped 50% this year. I was able to switch. Last year I couldn't.
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#5
That's good news. Most of folks griping about their premium increases miss that point.
Hoyt
Mar 2013
#104
Tell us the prices. Are you selfemployed or with a company? How much before and now?
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#79
so what are your montly/yearly #s? Work for a company or self employed?
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#80
great idea, now is the time for dems to take this up and run with at the state level nt
msongs
Mar 2013
#8
IT is cruel, evil, and horribly expensive in lives and money, and may destroy the economy
Demeter
Mar 2013
#9
On what basis are the insurance companies refusing to pay for their treatments? nt
pnwmom
Mar 2013
#87
I hope this person gets advice on how the new regulations affect his or situation.
pnwmom
Mar 2013
#103
If I own a product upon which your life depends, my profits will be obscene.
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#15
We don't allow water companies or electric companies to take the public hostage
BlueStreak
Mar 2013
#34
unless your in Detroit, the EFM is pushing through drastic water rate hikes, and talking of making
putitinD
Mar 2013
#46
When I hear phrases like "out of the kindness of their hearts" it is usually used in this context;
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#43
Obscene profits have to be returned to the policyholders. It's already happening with the ACA.
Zen Democrat
Mar 2013
#132
No there are plenty of people besides insurance companies who are making obscene profits. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#140
small businesses and those who buy individual policies will, as far as I can tell, be screwed
Flaxbee
Mar 2013
#24
NOPE. 50% less starting in April self employed. NO existing clause. NO lifetime cap.
graham4anything
Mar 2013
#82
I hope you are right, but I really doubt it. In fact what I see in California is that both
still_one
Mar 2013
#27
every time a repub state turns down aca, i see single payer getting closer to reality. eom
ellenfl
Mar 2013
#28
Well yeah sure, but the campaign contributors will make out like crazy.
Egalitarian Thug
Mar 2013
#36
Hope you are right, tell me when the annual out of pocket expenses will decline ...
slipslidingaway
Mar 2013
#35
What's your hypothesis as to why RomneyObamaCare will turn to single payer?
MannyGoldstein
Mar 2013
#37
Brilliant isn't what I would call me not being able to get insurance for 15 months.
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2013
#48
Democrats are going to pay a big price in elections before single payer happens
uselessobot
Mar 2013
#52
It started with a very limited program, the Saskatchawan Hospitalization Act
grantcart
Mar 2013
#135
Cutting to the chase of the 30 some single payer systems in the world only one turned from a private
grantcart
Mar 2013
#139
A plan developed to essentially protect and extend the longevity of the insurance cartel
TheKentuckian
Mar 2013
#69
No they won't. They are governors on the engine to limit the speed and consumption, at best.
TheKentuckian
Mar 2013
#116
Calling it one of the most brilliant pieces of legislation in US history....
NCTraveler
Mar 2013
#93
A friend was offered medical, life, disability and dental for $104 per month, this is the same
Thinkingabout
Mar 2013
#101
The plan he is on is a group offer and I think if the insurance companies are going
Thinkingabout
Mar 2013
#121
I think some shopping is going to be in order, let's see how many of the insuramce companies
Thinkingabout
Mar 2013
#124
The company is Blue Cross-Blue Shield of Texas, remember it was a group rate through
Thinkingabout
Mar 2013
#131