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In reply to the discussion: The Dalai Lama, a sordid history of Nazi Mentors and forgiving Fascists [View all]magical thyme
(14,881 posts)91. the devas are not Gods in the sense that other religions have gods
Guatama Buddha did not express a belief in a creator God and it is not inherent in the Buddhist philosophy. Most schools of Buddhism either do not address the existence of a God, or consider it irrelevant or even argue against it.
I suspect the "supernatural beings" you refer to are the devas, most of which are consistent with the Hindu gods, and may have been absorbed by groups adopting a combination of the two philosophies. My understanding is that those gods are not necessarily seen as literal, but as metaphors for manifestations of life energy.
To call Tibet a theocracy is a misrepresentation.
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The Dalai Lama, a sordid history of Nazi Mentors and forgiving Fascists [View all]
Paul E Ester
Mar 2013
OP
Is this what we are doing now? Should I go out and find some insulting article about
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#2
there is no pure buddhism polluted by other traditions such as you imagine.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#120
Buddhism doesn't have a creator god because it doesn't have a creation. So what?
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#183
lol. you know nothing about me. i don't think anything like 'all buddhists are sweetness and light'
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#194
Interesting story and website. The links go some of my favorite subjects. Thanks.
freshwest
Mar 2013
#3
Well then most of the historic tibetan buddhist leadership weren't buddhists.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#191
But most modern thinking separates Vajrayana from Mahayana because of Lamaism
FreeState
Mar 2013
#93
baloney. buddhism has been just as militaristic as christianity in its long history.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#68
You might want to read up on the history of Sri Lanka and the role of Buddhist monks
RFKHumphreyObama
Mar 2013
#155
I noticed that it wasn't a one time thing too. Here he is with EVIL personified.
Paul E Ester
Mar 2013
#7
Yes, I'm sure jesus was a covert agent of pharoah. But actually, I don't give a damn about
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#87
An exiled head of state taking money directly from the CIA is not comparable to
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#84
The Dalai Lama took money directly from the CIA. Your attempt at apologetics is completely
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#116
not 'wrong'. but not in accordance with the notion of an ethereal holy man whose only
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#147
The Dalai Lama had no role in the resistance movement, not that there would be anything wrong
kwassa
Mar 2013
#158
the dalai lama was the *head* of the overseas resistance. i don't expect the
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#176
I gotta be honest all the back and forth hatred over religion or lack of is getting old
Arcanetrance
Mar 2013
#6
So? There's a pic of him meeting someone. The Dalai Lama isn't at a Nazi meeting
Honeycombe8
Mar 2013
#12
As someone who opposes his politics, I have a few questions about what you're saying.
JVS
Mar 2013
#13
nice try. but thank you for the interesting reading. a couple choice quotes:
magical thyme
Mar 2013
#14
too bad there is no 'forgiveness' for the people pinochet *murdered* en masse.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#134
better than dying nameless and supposedly 'guilty' while pinochet dies a multimillionaire.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#146
"forgive pinochet, says dalai lama" = part of the OP. any other obvious questions you need
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#149
i don't forgive mass murderers, especially those posing as leaders & looking to rehabilitate
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#154
Miguel Serrano - Creator of Esoteric Hitlerism/ and head of chile Nazi party
Paul E Ester
Mar 2013
#15
Whoa, this is better than SciFi channel. Could you post the link since it got cut off??
freshwest
Mar 2013
#159
I don't know about useful, but one would think that going after a deposed theocrat wouldn't even...
JVS
Mar 2013
#20
it's not just sects. it's all manner of supernatural beings and supernatural realms, all of
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#76
So, hairsplitting about Buddhist doctrine aside, what do we call that form of government?
JVS
Mar 2013
#101
It's not misinformation. Should I have called him a deposed feudal lord? Is that better?
JVS
Mar 2013
#107
"by groups adopting a combination of the two philosophies" = all (including the beliefs &
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#117
in your interpretation of 'the philosophy overall'. but your interpretation is not 'the philosophy
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#125
Theocracy is commonly used to mean a state ruled by a religious leader or hierarchy. Ergo, the
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#187
no, it's a 'philosophy.' and wealthy western atheistic buddhists personally taught by the dalai
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#193
your knowledge is limited, apparently. theocracy is commonly used to describe governments run
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#190
Yep, and there is a reason the guilt by association fallacy is listed as one of the more
stevenleser
Mar 2013
#72
the reason it's common is that in real life, it's so often not fallacious. My neighbor has a lot of
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#203
The Nazis were as busy as the global corporations of today. If a person has ever gone to a school
freshwest
Mar 2013
#160
Heinrich Harrer - SS Officer Mentor to the young Dalai Lama, taught him to speak english
Paul E Ester
Mar 2013
#19
ZOMG! Not again. And here I thought I was getting some primo science fiction.
freshwest
Mar 2013
#162
99% of religious leaders live off their followers. That's fundamental. And just because someone
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#185
No picture of him with that Nazi pope Ratwhateverhisname? 2 for 1 photo op if you can find it.
lunasun
Mar 2013
#51
1.7 million a year = a piddly sum? in the 60s the population of tibet was about 1.3 million.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#75
Tibet's economy is subsistence agriculture, and the Dalia lama was in exile. So your comparison
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#115
you have no idea what kind of person he is. you see his public face, and that's all.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#184
how much does it cost to be taught by the Dalai lama, 'intimately'? inquiring minds want to know.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#192
I note that you don't appear to attempt to address the post you reply to.
Donald Ian Rankin
Mar 2013
#60
One's take on the politics of the situation are irrelevant to the fact that the Dalai Lama
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#123
It was the UFO part that sucked me in. I love that stuff. Don't believe it, but dayum!
freshwest
Mar 2013
#164
Heinrich Harrer was a mountain climber who only joined the Nazi party in able to be chosen to go on
FSogol
Mar 2013
#118
he joined the SS the day after the anschluss began, so i doubt it. he was already famous
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#127
Yeah, a famous climber who was left off of German expeditions because he wasn't in the party.
FSogol
Mar 2013
#128
1. He was austrian. 2. He was on the 1935/6 austrian olympic skiing team. 3. The anschluss
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#129
I didn't say harrar was 'evil'. In 1938, do you really imagine there were some neutral
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#133
What intelligence was there to be gained by sending wave after wave of climbers
FSogol
Mar 2013
#135
my name isn't hannah. hitler did not send 'wave after wave' of climbers at the eiger.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#137
no, i'm not wrong in saying that hitler didn't throw 'wave after wave' of climbers at the eiger.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#145
ditto. some of the very same posters screaming for the head of the pope are here talking
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#138
I've been thinking of writing a factual post about how the CIA has been subverting
Catherina
Mar 2013
#139
that would be interesting & i encourage you to post it. every religious institution is political,
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#140