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In reply to the discussion: There seems to be a lot of confusion about benevolent sexism. [View all]seabeyond
(110,159 posts)202. true that. good point. thanks. nt
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There are men who do that? I'm 51 and don't believe I have EVER witnessed that my entire life.
ieoeja
Mar 2013
#14
my head hurts from all the incredibly stupid, and snarky comments on this subject.
niyad
Mar 2013
#4
please notice that I said, "on the subject", not "in this thread" .the remark was about ALL the
niyad
Mar 2013
#171
Does not realizing that it's benevolent sexism make it any less an example of benevolent sexism?
redqueen
Mar 2013
#10
men do hold the door open for other men. My husband and father hold the door open for everybody.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#18
In one of the other threads I said I hold doors for every/anyone - men, women, children. The
bike man
Mar 2013
#123
I don't believe opening doors is necessarily sexist. I guess it depends on the individual.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#11
I like to assume someone is just being kind unless they prove otherwise.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#20
agree, but no one called him a pig. I'd say if you have genuine concerns about office safety and
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#56
I understand that the company is saving money using you as security instead of paying someone.
bettyellen
Mar 2013
#78
hr/finance GIRLS?????? I am assuming that the people who work for this company are over
niyad
Mar 2013
#145
I repeat, girls are female children. this is simply another aspect of the nearly invisible and
niyad
Mar 2013
#231
he doesn't like me driving to store at night because he thinks a mass murderer will kill me while
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#36
you are correct. There are no safe places anymore. I send my kids to school everyday knowing
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#66
Well with my father it is. He doesn't tell other men they shouldn't drive to the store at night.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2013
#77
I used to work second shift and sometimes had to go to the other building where no one else was
Nikia
Mar 2013
#234
No, you're not sexist, you're just a practical realist and a decent human being.
sabrina 1
Mar 2013
#248
To put it simply, let's learn to respect each other as humans first and foremost
alp227
Mar 2013
#194
This is critical for men today to understand especially in the workplace.
galileoreloaded
Mar 2013
#12
I'm right there with you and would rather absorb the hits than become the antithesis of who I strive
TheKentuckian
Mar 2013
#241
All the people who I have seen or heard about crying at work fit one or all of these scenarios
Nikia
Mar 2013
#230
and I have seen women specifically cry because men abuse them with benevolence which
galileoreloaded
Mar 2013
#240
Nothing says feminist thought quite like "crushing" women in business.
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2013
#209
We demand glass sliding self-opening doors everywhere. Except at our homes - hell no!
freshwest
Mar 2013
#239
Just don't do anything for anyone unless they ask you specifically for help
The2ndWheel
Mar 2013
#37
LOL After reading these threads, I'm ready to start slamming doors...
WorseBeforeBetter
Mar 2013
#54
NO! Instead hold the door for anyone regardless of gender, then you're not sexist.
Lionessa
Mar 2013
#87
Would you consider the phrase "women and children first" to be exemplary of benevolent sexism?
lumberjack_jeff
Mar 2013
#27
doubt you'll get an answer. as that is one of the problems with identity politics.
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#108
i answered. we have had threads on it in our feminist forum. you would be wrong. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#113
no, you didn't answer the question at all. you answered some other question in your own
HiPointDem
Mar 2013
#219
ha ha ha. you are right. i thought i read him asking about the sinking ship scenerio. hmmm... nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#221
i think it is ridiculous. there will be women that kick ass and are needed in an emergency.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#112
that whole womens first thing is fabricated to an extent. i do not remember it,
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#160
it was. i just forgot cause today i simply believe there will be useful capable women shoving men
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#165
It's an individual thing. If someone is not sensitive enough to easily recognize and understand
Zorra
Mar 2013
#232
even though enough folks have explained it to you beyond the holding of the door, this is where you
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#115
it is even more stupid to claim people are putting down others who are being nice.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#122
Seems like this is a "problem" solved by a simple "Thank you" or "No, thank you".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2013
#63
I think of that law as being quite deliberately aimed towards actions that are benevolent
lunatica
Mar 2013
#76
thank you redq. i was gonna do this but, walking out the door. seeing the nonthinking replies were
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#102
Holding the door is just one thing. It really says a lot when it's obvious how little people know
redqueen
Mar 2013
#177
Well it is polite if she is busy breast feeding at the olive garden and needs help lighting it (nt)
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#109
And would you believe there was a time in some restaurants that a server would
snappyturtle
Mar 2013
#127
old here, as well. I can still remember times that the check was automatically placed in front
niyad
Mar 2013
#147
yes. i remember. and i always had a blast picking it up. but then, i recognized the hypocrisy of
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#148
I once went to a restaurant where some menus had the prices, and others did not.
Nye Bevan
Mar 2013
#151
Never saw that but did see both menus withoout pricing....which always meant $$$$$. nt
snappyturtle
Mar 2013
#153
and some women have never participated and uses it to dismiss feminism without thinking thru
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#141
I certainly hope you are not trying to accuse me in some backhanded way of sitting in ignorance.
Raine1967
Mar 2013
#143
i do not know raine. i have yet to see an opinion on sexism. only feminists. and what is not
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#146
I did not say I didn't believe in benevolent sexism. That said, I don't believe in many theories.
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#162
that is all. we had a conversation about it in our forum. discussion. no more or less. and that
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#159
cause guys started a big boob thread to have their kicks talking about womens boobs and in that
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#164
starving and homeless people are not the only problems in this country, or anywhere else in the
niyad
Mar 2013
#172
Then flipping hide the thread if you care so little! Why are you freaking out?
redqueen
Mar 2013
#176
If opening a door for a person can be sexual harassment then this world is lost.
peace13
Mar 2013
#179
This is the kind of stuff we discuss all the time in feminist theory courses.
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2013
#183
This is similar reasoning a republican uses when discussing affirmative action. n/t
egduj
Mar 2013
#175
Maybe every time we bring up a feminist issue that people just love derailing, we should place bets
redqueen
Mar 2013
#188
I was just accused of not helping the homeless for practicing feminist deconstruction.
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2013
#196
i love the deconstruction conversation. i had not heard it that way, but it is exactly
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#198
Even when we discuss something like benevolent sexism we say "possible sexism..."
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2013
#200
agreed. i have never advocated women having the right to physically assault anyone. nt
seabeyond
Mar 2013
#199
I believe it was Marlyn Frye who talked about obsession with male access to everything.
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2013
#205
This is a thread chiefly on the discussion of benevelant sexism against women
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2013
#208
How is benevelant sexism against women related to violence against men?
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2013
#214
Well, rq, you obviously hit dead center of the bullseye with your OP subject line.
Zorra
Mar 2013
#233
It really isn't complicated. And it ties into rape culture, so it is important.
redqueen
Mar 2013
#235