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MattBaggins

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12. Wrong

Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:06 PM

Mar 2013

Instead of dismissing it out of hand just take a simple few moments to reflect on whether you do tend to do it more for women and if so do you let it influences other ways you interact with women.

Institutionalized Racism is a plot made up by angry black men?
Benevolent Sexism is a plot made up by angry feminazis?
They are both legitimate concepts that deserve more than angry dismissal and snark?

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Do whatever the fuck you WANT to do when it comes to doors... [View all] Bicoastal Mar 2013 OP

Same here. Whoever is behind me gets the Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #1

What I love is to hold the door for someone demwing Mar 2013 #5

^^^this^^^ n/t ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #8

LOL! But it is a funny thing to mentally gauge whether it's a favor or a problem. nolabear Mar 2013 #18

When people do that Life Long Dem Mar 2013 #63

I would ignore your door and open the one beside it Cronus Protagonist Mar 2013 #85

that would be awesome! demwing Mar 2013 #89

I've done it several times too Cronus Protagonist Mar 2013 #166

Experimentational Notes, Page #1 demwing Mar 2013 #196

LOL! randome Mar 2013 #198

Also, and I don't care what the gender is. Sometimes someone helps me out that way. freshwest Mar 2013 #55

Some people look for reasons to be offended... onpatrol98 Mar 2013 #78

Ayup MynameisBlarney Mar 2013 #68

I do the same. Old, young, male, female, it doesn't matter. Arkansas Granny Mar 2013 #171

And use the fork on the LEFT for salad! randome Mar 2013 #2

I thought it was the outside fork. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #4

start on the outside ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #6

I thought that's what honey was for! cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #14

that will work... ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #15

I eat my peas with honey. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2013 #152

I thought true southerners use molasses. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #194

Start with one furtherest leftynyc Mar 2013 #10

Geeze, guys/gals, I wasn't expecting to LEARN anything today! randome Mar 2013 #27

Yeah, but then they will screw with you and put some above the plate Thor_MN Mar 2013 #189

and here I thought it was supposed to be used RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #121

I'll go out on a limb here and suggest that you don't get re-invited to many dinner parties, right? randome Mar 2013 #124

You two really did make me laugh out loud. Thanks. efhmc Mar 2013 #129

Sometimes there's a kind of 'gestalt' mood that strikes this place! randome Mar 2013 #130

Is THAT why they don't invite me to dinner... RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #135

What are ya, some kinda mook? AAO Mar 2013 #111

Oh screw it! pipi_k Mar 2013 #157

International dining conundrums solved once again by Switzerland! randome Mar 2013 #161

Agree. I would add never smile or make eye contact. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #3

Look away! Look away! randome Mar 2013 #35

Yeah, but if it's a homely person... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #57

We just need a law that all doors are automatic The Straight Story Mar 2013 #7

i like the app idea... n/t ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #11

That app is a brilliant idea. Pair it with a shock collar LittleBlue Mar 2013 #17

Unless one enjoys shock collars. Then it might be problematic. randome Mar 2013 #30

I will reluctantly admit... AAO Mar 2013 #117

Well it is sexism if you don't have sex with both men and women equally The Straight Story Mar 2013 #119

No, that's just my sexual orientation. I can't help myself! AAO Mar 2013 #132

You like...doors? Eww! randome Mar 2013 #133

Yes - "Riders on the Storm" is one of my favs! AAO Mar 2013 #134

Which Door? Jim Morrison? kwassa Mar 2013 #153

What if pipi_k Mar 2013 #158

I would hold the door open and wish him a good day! AAO Mar 2013 #160

Um, it's simple courtesy... Rider3 Mar 2013 #9

Wrong MattBaggins Mar 2013 #12

Genuflect? demwing Mar 2013 #22

Fuck and you MattBaggins Mar 2013 #31

you are getting mad at the internets... snooper2 Mar 2013 #38

Wow, never seen anyone claiming to be a Dem get so pissed over Lionessa Mar 2013 #39

Sometimes FU is used in jest MattBaggins Mar 2013 #51

I guess I just didn't read any jest in the comment at all. You seemed sincerely pissed. Lionessa Mar 2013 #66

I am diabetic with poor eyesight MattBaggins Mar 2013 #70

Apology accepted. Try to do better in the future. But, Lionessa Mar 2013 #72

Not as much as you might think MattBaggins Mar 2013 #75

Well, that laugh didn't last long did it, and Lionessa Mar 2013 #77

That would be me (uses an Inigo Montoya graphic) demwing Mar 2013 #74

My FU post was not done in anger MattBaggins Mar 2013 #76

Lighten up Francis demwing Mar 2013 #47

Amazing this unbelievably rude post did not get locked. They new jury system is a joke. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #65

Is it as bad as the one where MattBaggins Mar 2013 #71

Yes, fuck you is worse. Too bad you do not know it. Lucky for you I am not an admin. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #92

Lol MattBaggins Mar 2013 #143

LOL, Yes, because banning you from the DU is fighting you. Sorry if I scared you. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #144

No, the new jury system, unlike the Pope, is not infallible. randome Mar 2013 #99

Good post. NCTraveler Mar 2013 #56

Of course MattBaggins Mar 2013 #60

"They just saw door, and the outrage went into overdrive." redqueen Mar 2013 #168

It reminds me of how the right trivialized the ERA by whining about unisex bathrooms (nt) Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #182

Oh good grief! HappyMe Mar 2013 #59

You are perhaps not giving it the seriousness MattBaggins Mar 2013 #62

Perhaps I am not. HappyMe Mar 2013 #67

Trying to create a straw man MattBaggins Mar 2013 #69

i will let anyone go first datasuspect Mar 2013 #127

Which has nothing to do with the actual issue MattBaggins Mar 2013 #145

Just be kind. To men, women, children, animals, and yourself. nolabear Mar 2013 #13

A simple "No, thank you" would work for the squeemish. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #16

I especially love doing this for men. First they're surprised, then try to flirt (most of them monmouth3 Mar 2013 #19

I take off my hat when I talk to women Recursion Mar 2013 #20

I wish more men wore hats rather than baseball caps. I miss the hat era, it seemed so much HiPointDem Mar 2013 #25

Well more civilized until the hat comes off and egads! HatHead! tee hee Lionessa Mar 2013 #29

that's why real men carry pocket combs. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #36

ROFL. OIC. And if I recall have tons of Brillcream (?) to help hold it all in place. Lionessa Mar 2013 #43

brylcreem. a little dab'll do ya, though. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #49

Well, those that used it were measure challenged then because they were always Lionessa Mar 2013 #50

and women think 160 is really 120. see how that works? HiPointDem Mar 2013 #53

And spit on them when they comb their hair! (see P. Wolfowitz) AAO Mar 2013 #137

Sartorially, at least, it was much more civilized Recursion Mar 2013 #33

sartorially was my meaning. i also like when medical personnel wear crisp whites instead of HiPointDem Mar 2013 #44

I wear a fedora much of the time, and I too remove my hat when speaking to man or woman. Lionessa Mar 2013 #32

I am a small woman, almost elderly, and I happily and cheerfully hold the door Lionessa Mar 2013 #21

You are a gem, Lionessa klook Mar 2013 #23

Thank you. I've always felt that making someone else smile brightens my day. Lionessa Mar 2013 #26

It costs pipi_k Mar 2013 #159

I am a woman. blueamy66 Mar 2013 #24

THANK YOU!!! SomethingFishy Mar 2013 #28

Only a few people can turn a common courtesy into something negative. Apophis Mar 2013 #34

Ah, but this thread isn't about common courtesy. Gormy Cuss Mar 2013 #90

I didn't think of it that way. Apophis Mar 2013 #108

Bad advice. I hold the stall doors open for women all the time. randome Mar 2013 #37

I hurry up and close the door before someone else can get there joeglow3 Mar 2013 #40

i hold it shut while making faces through the glass. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #46

At my university, the norm is to hold the door open for whomever is behind you. ZombieHorde Mar 2013 #41

Hold your hand out for a tip. randome Mar 2013 #45

I can't tell, are you outraged? n/t Whisp Mar 2013 #42

This is an issue...serious? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #48

No, I think it's a replacement for Meta. randome Mar 2013 #54

Gee, ya think? Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #179

THIS Metalunan is also unhappy! randome Mar 2013 #181

Yes benevolent Sexism is an issue MattBaggins Mar 2013 #58

not much of one. HiPointDem Mar 2013 #64

It really isn't much of an issue at all. HappyMe Mar 2013 #98

The acceptance of benevolently sexist ideas is strongly correlated with redqueen Mar 2013 #170

you do not find hypocrisy to be an issue? i do . seabeyond Mar 2013 #173

No, not talking about sexism, opening doors. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #115

Yeah, but that guy was trying to escape the insane asylum! And you helped him! randome Mar 2013 #120

For you it's not an issue MattBaggins Mar 2013 #142

I did not say the issue does not exist. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #146

This isn't an example of faux outrage MattBaggins Mar 2013 #147

Whatever nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #148

Exactly my point MattBaggins Mar 2013 #150

Yep. And the Equal Rights Amendment was all about unisex bathrooms. (nt) Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #185

Yep. And it's really sad. nt redqueen Mar 2013 #167

Hey nadin ... polly7 Mar 2013 #186

Yup, I had the same experience nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #192

Sometimes people try to "seniorize" me klook Mar 2013 #52

Some of the grocery stores have that as a policy. Evoman Mar 2013 #104

Thanks, that's reassuring. klook Mar 2013 #109

I concur with the person above davidpdx Mar 2013 #202

Wow, interesting klook Mar 2013 #203

My momma would smack the back of my head if I stopped now.. X_Digger Mar 2013 #61

Would she smack you for not opening the door MattBaggins Mar 2013 #73

Women, someone with their hands full, children, the infirm, senior citizens (of both sexes). X_Digger Mar 2013 #107

Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #154

I was busy with other things MattBaggins Mar 2013 #172

nor is occulus. more fabrication and make believe. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #191

That's actually a good example gollygee Mar 2013 #155

*nod* It's not something I put a lot of thought into, and I've never had anyone get mad over it. X_Digger Mar 2013 #156

Wow, I must have really missed something. pamela Mar 2013 #79

It's a-door-able, isn't it? randome Mar 2013 #84

*groan* Puns like that should be a bannable offense. Evoman Mar 2013 #105

I can't believe I even typed it. I'm not the sort who uses the word 'adorable'! randome Mar 2013 #114

Is this really a topic worthy of discussion? I see that lots of people are responding, but REALLY? Buzz Clik Mar 2013 #80

Whether you are a man or a woman, applegrove Mar 2013 #81

Or someone with crutches. Or in a wheelchair. randome Mar 2013 #83

butterflies LOL! applegrove Mar 2013 #138

I constantly remind my son AND my daughters to Aldo Leopold Mar 2013 #82

META was boarded up without notice Rex Mar 2013 #86

Oh. My. God. We need to bring Meta back just so you have somewhere else to go! randome Mar 2013 #87

No need, you bring META into each reply Rex Mar 2013 #88

As your avatar says.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2013 #112

Breasts, doors, elevators Rex Mar 2013 #116

I was wondering that, too. winter is coming Mar 2013 #163

The person who reaches the door first, opens the door LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #91

Because what you suggest is standard practice MattBaggins Mar 2013 #149

How about letting a women exit the elevator first? UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #93

Unless you're on the 13th floor. randome Mar 2013 #94

talk about myopic. the issue is not damn doors. geeez. nt seabeyond Mar 2013 #95

Better to be wrong opening them than closing them. nt rrneck Mar 2013 #96

Can I just leave the toilet seat up now? RedCappedBandit Mar 2013 #97

No. Both the seat AND the cover should be down after use. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #187

I hold the door for anyone who is within about 10 feet of the door. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #100

I do, too deutsey Mar 2013 #106

Other than that one time, its never been an issue. JoePhilly Mar 2013 #110

I hold doors for people of all ages - men, women, and children. Children almost always bike man Mar 2013 #101

I didn't realize this was being debated? ellie Mar 2013 #102

Ain't nobody got time for this. deutsey Mar 2013 #113

Oh I love Sweet Brown. polly7 Mar 2013 #190

It isn't. Some people are pretending that it is. Similarly, the Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #188

I hold the door for anyone directly behind me, sometime for a whole line of people. AAO Mar 2013 #103

the old cowboys in my town do that too NMDemDist2 Mar 2013 #200

Sure. You need to gauge the situation, and not be late to work! AAO Mar 2013 #204

I hold the door open. sibelian Mar 2013 #118

What's the big freakin' deal? RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #122

Angle #1,246 4Q2u2 Mar 2013 #123

I love it when some nice man holds the door open for me, SheilaT Mar 2013 #125

We have a revolving door at my work so luckily I don't have to worry about this. cbdo2007 Mar 2013 #126

Look, if you start creating exceptions, the entire concept falls to pieces! randome Mar 2013 #128

What I'm trying to teach my gsons is not to run up to a door, open it and efhmc Mar 2013 #131

Where I work, a person will get fired if they hold to door open for the next person. LiberalArkie Mar 2013 #136

Context? a2liberal Mar 2013 #139

Big doors or small doors? n/t DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2013 #140

Next up,...all males at the table standing up when the woman has to go take a piss. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #141

Riders on the Storm graham4anything Mar 2013 #151

What is the proper way to open a door for someone? Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #162

I walk through and hold it open. randome Mar 2013 #169

I just think it's kind to not let the door slam in AllyCat Mar 2013 #164

Yeah, see, it's not about doors. redqueen Mar 2013 #165

No they do not MattBaggins Mar 2013 #174

I don't know if they'd get PPR'd, but they sure wouldn't be so proud of how little they care redqueen Mar 2013 #175

They should get one MattBaggins Mar 2013 #177

So you say Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #183

As a woman who holds the door open for the next person csziggy Mar 2013 #176

the only ones that are outraged are those accusing anyone being outraged because someone holds a seabeyond Mar 2013 #178

That's because there is NO outrage Texasgal Mar 2013 #195

No, I will not get the door for you. Warren DeMontague Mar 2013 #180

My approach to the door: alp227 Mar 2013 #184

Because we don't have enough flamebait BainsBane Mar 2013 #193

You have my sympathy. Cerridwen Mar 2013 #197

Don't get me started on those self satisfied automatic doors ThoughtCriminal Mar 2013 #199

Letting the door slam on whoever is behind you is the asshole thing to do regardless of gender. dkf Mar 2013 #201