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In reply to the discussion: Patton Oswalt: What gun owners think they look like... [View all]apocalypsehow
(12,751 posts)165. "But silly me" - Yep, dishonest framing and juxtaposition is often silly, just as you say.
Pic #1:
President Obama Trap/Skeet shooting a shotgun: that comes nowhere close to the gun nuttery that is being ridiculed and spoofed in the OP, and you well know it. No one is talking about taking away hunting/sporting shotguns on the pro-sensible gun legislation side, and you well know that, too.
Thus, dishonest framing and juxtaposition #1.
Pic #2:
Senator (now Secretary of State) Kerry shooting a shotgun during the '04 campaign: see above.
Pic #3:
President Clinton hunting with a shotgun: see above.
Pic #4:
President Carter inspecting a shotgun at a trade show: see above.
Pic #5:
This one is particularly rich: that was the Commander-in-Chief of the United States military inspecting the new assault rifle the Air Force was adopting for military use by their security forces. Yet the picture is juxtaposed with the reply to make it look like JFK was a the proud owner of a brand new assault rifle, and thus an "RKBA enthusiast."
Dishonest framing and juxtaposition #5.
Pic #6:
President Truman posing with a shotgun at a farm: see #1-4 above.
Pic #7:
Like the attempt to convert President Kennedy into a "pro-RKBA" fanatic by dishonestly juxtaposing a pic of him inspecting a military assault rifle as part of his duties as Commander-in-Chief, this one is equally rich: here is an Commander-in-Chief during wartime in the field with the troops under his command inspecting the combat rifle of one those soldiers.
Dishonest framing and juxtaposition #7.
Pic #8:
Eleanor Roosevelt or anyone else legally eligible for the privilege - not 'right,' privilege - of owning a firearm shooting what looks to be a .22 caliber plinking handgun on private property in a rural setting is, again, not what is being ridiculed/spoofed in the OP - and again: You. Well. Know. It.
Dishonest framing and juxtaposition #8.
Nice try, but none of it washes. Not one single bit of it.
Since you apparently missed the post you are ostensibly replying to the first time around, I've reposted it and bolded it for your assistance. This time, try to stay on track, as opposed to either (a) apparently losing your place and replying with confused non sequiturs or (b) attempting to shift the goalposts and otherwise change the subject.*
*(Take Two)
President Obama Trap/Skeet shooting a shotgun: that comes nowhere close to the gun nuttery that is being ridiculed and spoofed in the OP, and you well know it. No one is talking about taking away hunting/sporting shotguns on the pro-sensible gun legislation side, and you well know that, too.
Thus, dishonest framing and juxtaposition #1.
Pic #2:
Senator (now Secretary of State) Kerry shooting a shotgun during the '04 campaign: see above.
Pic #3:
President Clinton hunting with a shotgun: see above.
Pic #4:
President Carter inspecting a shotgun at a trade show: see above.
Pic #5:
This one is particularly rich: that was the Commander-in-Chief of the United States military inspecting the new assault rifle the Air Force was adopting for military use by their security forces. Yet the picture is juxtaposed with the reply to make it look like JFK was a the proud owner of a brand new assault rifle, and thus an "RKBA enthusiast."
Dishonest framing and juxtaposition #5.
Pic #6:
President Truman posing with a shotgun at a farm: see #1-4 above.
Pic #7:
Like the attempt to convert President Kennedy into a "pro-RKBA" fanatic by dishonestly juxtaposing a pic of him inspecting a military assault rifle as part of his duties as Commander-in-Chief, this one is equally rich: here is an Commander-in-Chief during wartime in the field with the troops under his command inspecting the combat rifle of one those soldiers.
Dishonest framing and juxtaposition #7.
Pic #8:
Eleanor Roosevelt or anyone else legally eligible for the privilege - not 'right,' privilege - of owning a firearm shooting what looks to be a .22 caliber plinking handgun on private property in a rural setting is, again, not what is being ridiculed/spoofed in the OP - and again: You. Well. Know. It.
Dishonest framing and juxtaposition #8.
Nice try, but none of it washes. Not one single bit of it.
Since you apparently missed the post you are ostensibly replying to the first time around, I've reposted it and bolded it for your assistance. This time, try to stay on track, as opposed to either (a) apparently losing your place and replying with confused non sequiturs or (b) attempting to shift the goalposts and otherwise change the subject.*
*(Take Two)
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You're right! There is absolutely no chance that she will ever be be a victim unless ...
spin
Mar 2013
#139
I Expect It Would To Many, Sir: In My Experience, Fetishists Have No Idea How They Seem To Others
The Magistrate
Mar 2013
#23
"In My Experience, Fetishists Have No Idea How They Seem To Others"
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2013
#63
Just as I thought, no definition... but no big surprise you'd know what the 'kids' say... n/t
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2013
#70
And We Were So Hoping, Sir, For More Tales Of Your Big Bad Self, But Alas, You Disappoint
The Magistrate
Mar 2013
#81
All the time in the world to write a boorish screed, but no definition yet, huh? How SHOCKING!!
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2013
#97
You know something? I really don't give a rats ass what you feel, or even what you've got to say...
Ghost in the Machine
Mar 2013
#123
Ah, Yes, Sir: 'The Peace Of Mind A Woman Enjoys With An Ar-15 At Her Hip ---
The Magistrate
Mar 2013
#33
For a guy who has no problems with the government killing innocent people with drones
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#52
Who Says they Are Innocent, Sir? Combatant Status Has Nothing To Do With Guilt Or Innocence
The Magistrate
Mar 2013
#53
I guess we will never know because they are not white and we don't care
The Straight Story
Mar 2013
#55
I had been wondering when a pic of one of those cute little thangs would appear and poof!
CTyankee
Mar 2013
#140
The More Devoted To the Possession, Ma'am, The Greater The Likelihood It Applies
The Magistrate
Mar 2013
#80
Bravo! Harry J. Anslinger or Frederic Wertham could not have said it better.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2013
#89
On the contrary, I find the jeremiads of self-appointed "improvers" amusing.
friendly_iconoclast
Mar 2013
#93
The comedian (pictured on the right) who posted this is making fun of himself. nt
Guy Whitey Corngood
Mar 2013
#19
We're of different eras, but what you're going through sounds very familiar
pinboy3niner
Mar 2013
#188
You look like it was your job to run around with a situation appropriate weapon.
onehandle
Mar 2013
#40
Actually, I think he was a "wanna be" cop - sort of like George Zimmerman without the racial issues
Mike Daniels
Mar 2013
#54
Hmm...not sure about all gun owners, but gun nuts (WARNING; GRAPHIC DISPLAY OF GUN TROLL)
Rex
Mar 2013
#41
Are you the 8-year old boy on the left planning to take his father's unsecured gun to school?
onehandle
Mar 2013
#50
none of those are gun nuts , but they do look better than the typical "govt going to take away"
JI7
Mar 2013
#87
Often the attempt is made to link the patently right-wing, pro-NRA cause of "RKBA" with actual
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#147
I'm not stating, nor implying either of those positions that you are trying to assign me.
MadHound
Mar 2013
#161
"But silly me" - Yep, dishonest framing and juxtaposition is often silly, just as you say.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#130
One reply debunked as dishonest juxtapositon and framing, and so the goalposts are shifted;
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#137
Somehow decrying the specific language of the OP is shifting the goal posts? I beg your pardon,
MadHound
Mar 2013
#162
"But silly me" - Yep, dishonest framing and juxtaposition is often silly, just as you say.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#164
"But silly me" - Yep, dishonest framing and juxtaposition is often silly, just as you say.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#172
"I will move on." - Your concession, of sorts, is duly noted. *Trackback* for DU'ers:
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#179
For DU'ers uninterested in wading through the rambling verbiage of #134, here's the condensed
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#143
"But silly me" - Yep, dishonest framing and juxtaposition is often silly, just as you say.
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#165
Do you really think the dishonest RW gunners here will be suaded by simple facts?
baldguy
Mar 2013
#166
You got that right: *facts* are to that crowd what garlic is to a vampire:
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#167
Except, the direct question *was* answered in #172 above, and it's now your pal who is fleeing
apocalypsehow
Mar 2013
#178