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19. The Czarist Okhrana precipitated the assassination plot of the Austrian Archduke in Sarajevo.

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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:59 PM

Mar 2013

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Related to another OP, should the US have entered World War II earlier than it did? [View all] pampango Mar 2013 OP

Had we entered the war earlier, it might have been over in MineralMan Mar 2013 #1

The benefits of the massive bombardments is questionable. n/t Cary Mar 2013 #3

Perhaps so. I haven't studied the strategic MineralMan Mar 2013 #6

I wouldn't say I studied it closely but my understanding is that we realized limited benefits and Cary Mar 2013 #24

Both things are true. Until WWII, the capacity MineralMan Mar 2013 #30

I think history shows that bombing civilians increases their hatred and will to fight rather than pampango Mar 2013 #29

Second guessing historical characters, with the advantage of hindsight... Cary Mar 2013 #2

+1. This Thread Belongs In American History Group, Not GD. (nt) Paladin Mar 2013 #11

The movie The Final Countdown addresses exactly that. Pararescue Mar 2013 #18

I hated the ending. Peter cotton Mar 2013 #20

I thought the ending sucked also. Pararescue Mar 2013 #25

Roosevelt had to wait until the country would support the war... tokenlib Mar 2013 #4

I agree. In fact I posted that FDR had no choice given the sentiments of the time. pampango Mar 2013 #7

We should have at least used the Neutrality Act to prosecute Prescott Bush and other Wall St leveymg Mar 2013 #5

Prescott Bush was quoted as saying, "If I could just talk to Mr. Hitler..." lastlib Mar 2013 #9

That's an important quote, but it was Sen. Borah who said it, according to Rob't Parry leveymg Mar 2013 #17

Given the isolationist stance sarisataka Mar 2013 #8

All very interesting and plausible possibilities. Just goes to show how unpredictable war pampango Mar 2013 #23

I like reading what if books... sarisataka Mar 2013 #28

US traditionally didn't declare war until attacked. reformist2 Mar 2013 #10

Other: we should have prevented WWII by never having WWI Taverner Mar 2013 #12

How would you have stopped WWI from happening? pampango Mar 2013 #15

The Czarist Okhrana precipitated the assassination plot of the Austrian Archduke in Sarajevo. leveymg Mar 2013 #19

That's a toughie, but a big part would be to render Archduke Ferdinand's killing irrelevant Taverner Mar 2013 #35

Definitely *should* have entered earlier, but it was politically impossible. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #13

From what I understand, Roosevelt was primarily concerned about LeftInTX Mar 2013 #14

It was Germany who declared war on us sarisataka Mar 2013 #22

There is no guarantee that an earlier entry to the war would have helped the allied cause. JVS Mar 2013 #16

I think you are right. It took us a long time to crank up military production and draft and train pampango Mar 2013 #26

Roosevelt wanted to, the people were adamantly opposed. n/t Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #21

We weren't ready in 1939 or 1940 Lurks Often Mar 2013 #27

The United States was not militarily ready for war. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #31

I agree that we were not ready - even in 1941. France and Britain were not ready either but pampango Mar 2013 #36

If France & England had been smarter they would have beaten Germany in 1940. GreenStormCloud Mar 2013 #37

Ubiquitous "other"--as a policy matter it may have made sense, but geek tragedy Mar 2013 #32

Actually, had Hitler not declared war on us, it would have been a hard sell to fight him. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #33

I don't think it could have been much sooner...we didn't have a large army, joeybee12 Mar 2013 #34

What if we had had a strong army in 1939? Would entering the war at that point have been pampango Mar 2013 #38

Probably the right thing... joeybee12 Mar 2013 #40

I'm fundamentally an isolationist, but in the case of WW-II we royally screwed up. talkingmime Mar 2013 #39