Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

In reply to the discussion: Fixing Social Security [View all]
 

Gorp

(716 posts)
11. For the millionaires and billionaires, FICA is like dropping a penny in a parking lot...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:29 PM
Feb 2013

... and not bothering to pick it up. It's as regressive as you can get. We all pay the full percentage on our income (twice if you're self-employed or run a side business). Everyone should pay the same percentage and the employer percentage should be eliminated for anyone without employees under said business. At least kill the cap.

Capital gains, foreign or domestic, should simply be treated as regular line 7 income and FICA payments should be based on that as well. All other loopholes aside, those two simple changes would cure the budget woes and pump up the economy because Congress could actually afford to rebuild our infrastructure. Obvious defense boondogles like the F-35 wouldn't even have to be cut (although that one should be).

If Congress had the guts to make just those two changes, nothing more, SS income could easily provide at least double the current payouts and still run a massive surplus. We could actually provide the care and support our veterans deserve. Medicare and Medicaid could be expanded rather than cut. Education's obvious deficiencies could be overcome. The amount of money involved isn't even known because people like rMoney hide so much income in off-shore accounts. The bill could accomplish all of this in two or three pages using simple language and Congress critters might even consider reading a bill for once.

Then again, monkeys might fly out of my ass and it could start raining gold coins. All the roads could magically repair themselves by eliminating their own potholes and water fountains might sprout beer tap buttons. Nothing in the refrigerator would ever mold and the toilets would never need to be cleaned and would smell like roses. Cars would all suddenly get 5,000 mpg without modifications and fast food would stop making people fat. I'm not holding my breath for any of that to happen.

Fixing Social Security [View all] chase48 Feb 2013 OP
The only thing wrong with Social Security is that the people who "borrowed" from it don't want... liberal N proud Feb 2013 #1
The Treasury? madville Feb 2013 #3
Congress allowed that to happen! liberal N proud Feb 2013 #4
How about those US Treasuries.......... over 2 trillion...... FogerRox Feb 2013 #14
All the Treasury needs is money to pay the trust fund back madville Feb 2013 #19
I wonder if the maximum monthly benefit would rise as well madville Feb 2013 #2
Fixing Social Security chase48 Feb 2013 #5
Capping benefits makes SS welfare, not wage insurance. FogerRox Feb 2013 #22
RW talking point. Cleita Feb 2013 #7
That's what will get proposed along with raising or eliminating the cap madville Feb 2013 #10
You can increase payout while raising the cap and make the program more solvent TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #9
Do you even realize SS trust fund coinsists of 2.6 trillion in US Treasuries? FogerRox Feb 2013 #18
Sure, I do madville Feb 2013 #20
I sure do. Why do you ask and what do you think I was referring to? TheKentuckian Feb 2013 #21
Benefits are based on FICA, so increasing the cap increases benefits, AIME formula FogerRox Feb 2013 #15
You can't fix what doesn't need fixing. Cleita Feb 2013 #6
Creatring lots of jobs means more FICA, and SS is good thru 2090. As per the SS trustees FogerRox Feb 2013 #17
america is a RICH country. the whole system has been fucked up royally. pansypoo53219 Feb 2013 #8
For the millionaires and billionaires, FICA is like dropping a penny in a parking lot... Gorp Feb 2013 #11
most people are uninformed about SS chase48 Feb 2013 #12
Most people spend their time in front of the "boob tube", and FOX is the worst of the offerings. Gorp Feb 2013 #13
SS is just fine, probably thru 2090, doesnt need saving. FogerRox Feb 2013 #16
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Fixing Social Security»Reply #11