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kiri

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69. Evolution is Not a religion
Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:53 PM
Feb 2013
http://concordareahumanists.org/blog/201301/evolution-religion
Is Evolution a Religion?
By Ellery Schempp

IDists claim that there is an "intelligent design" view and that
evolution is "an equal religion". They usually say "Darwinism". Of
course, there is no such thing as "Darwinism", this is a word made up
by IDists to label those who do not accept their views. Let's
consider what characterizes traditional religions and whether
evolution is a religion. The historical record shows numerous
distinctions.

The Theory of Evolution is not a religion.

Evolution has no priests, pastors, ministers, preachers, bishops,
ayatollahs, imams, mullahs, prophets (or televangelical profits). No
holy books or sacred scriptures. It has no holidays, no feast days,
no canonized saints. It depends on no miracles. It gets no tax
exemptions.

Evolution has no alter boys, no prayers, no church establishments, no
edifices with crosses, stars or crescents, no churches or temples, no
coming-of-age rituals like Bar Mitzvah or confirmation.

Evolution has no banned books, no warnings about heresy or blasphemy,
no record of burning witches or heretics, no public displays of piety
or prayer, no holy book supposed to contain "All Truth", no creed to
be ritually recited. Evolution does not define pagans or infidels.
There are no mythological beliefs or transubstantiations.

Evolution has no history of torturing non-believers, has never
started a war, never burned an opponent at the stake. The idea of
evolution has no record of sex scandals. No record of financial
fraud. No record of trying to get a passport stamped for entry into
heaven. Evolution offers no condemnations to hell nor promises of an
after-life.

Evolution does not support occult beliefs. The scientific theory of
evolution has no dependence on a supernatural deity or pixies; no
prayer rituals, no burial rituals, no sacraments. There are no
invisible beings, gods, deities, devils, demons, ghosts, satans,
angels, spirits, cherubim, seraphim, faeries, or a soul. Evolution
recognizes no destructions as "acts of God" nor acts of violence
as "acts of Satan or an anti-christ."

Evolution does not depend on blind faith; it offers no argument from
authority; no conclusion first, facts second. There is no body
of "apologetics" from the theory of evolution.

The above are evidences of religion. The idea of evolution, which is
based on observation of the natural world as we see it, does not have
any of the attributes of religion. Indeed, evolution is the
opposite, it welcomes energetic inquiries and thoughtful inputs.

Evolution looks not to miracles to understand the world around us.
Evolution, as all science, looks to evidence that we can see and
understand and test. Neither evolution nor any scientific construct
claims to offer moral or political guidance.

Evolution is consistent with a democratic outlook in which the rights
of the people are derived from the people. Evolution is not
consistent with the view that the natural world is only revealed by
authorities or a view that rights derive from authorities, especially
not from authorities anointed under a doctrine of the Divine Right of
Kings or one or another "holy scripture". It is the natural world as all can see and understand, and it
depends on no revelations, no sacred texts.

The Theory of Evolution, the Theory of Gravity, the Germ Theory of
Disease are not religion and not religious. Just because you think
something is true does not make it a religion.

The theory of evolution is the antithesis of traditional religions;
it champions the free mind, and the spirit of free inquiry to see
where facts, observations, and the power of reason as the human mind
leads.
Is Blackwell even aware that some OK students would eventually like to get into good colleges? nt MrScorpio Feb 2013 #1
They can't all go to Liberty University, can they?...nt SidDithers Feb 2013 #3
Problem solved, locally: naaman fletcher Feb 2013 #71
seems like he's far more interested in making sure they attend an approved church 0rganism Feb 2013 #86
He doesn't want them in good colleges. ballaratocker Feb 2013 #98
Dumbasses...` SidDithers Feb 2013 #2
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #4
No. A science paper is graded on the understanding of the science in the paper... SidDithers Feb 2013 #8
Court has ruled in the Dover case that creationism isn't science Tempest Feb 2013 #78
Dover was a great ruling... SidDithers Feb 2013 #79
The Courts TriEssent May 2013 #124
IWell Creationism is not science and I say this as a Chrisian. As for the courts they are there for hrmjustin May 2013 #125
Did you really just write that? trumad Feb 2013 #9
I also said, "Well supported". Being well-articulate alone isn't enough. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #13
"well-supported" trumad Feb 2013 #16
"Well supported" as in: "Derrrrr ... Gawd done sed it in the book he done rited!" Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #18
I love arguing with Creationist.... trumad Feb 2013 #20
Also a wee bit depressing. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #21
Sigh is the right expression for sure. trumad Feb 2013 #23
I think that was the point, gejohnston Feb 2013 #97
That's what I got from the message. xmas74 Feb 2013 #104
Do you understand there is a difference between Scientific Theory and common theory Bandit Feb 2013 #26
Gravity is Just a Theory kiri Feb 2013 #68
Gravity consisntently kills those that don't believe in it. And many that do. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #80
Newtowian mechanics explained gravity quite well for hundreds of years before Einstein xtraxritical Feb 2013 #89
Einsteins's theory of gravity did NOT replace Newton's theory, it includes Newton's theory. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #109
It is impossible to make a scientifically "well supported" argument for BeeBee Feb 2013 #31
There is no evidence to support creationism. Apophis Feb 2013 #50
If they can pull it off, forget the grade, they will be looking at a Nobel Prize n/t Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #58
Even Behe, ON THE STAND under oath admitted creationism isn't science. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #73
anyone who wastes a science teacher's time with 7 pages of creationist wank deserves an F 0rganism Feb 2013 #88
Well, then that student can get an F+ instead of an F... JHB Feb 2013 #100
If creationism is to be taught side by side Shadowflash Feb 2013 #106
Even "professional" creationists skepticscott Feb 2013 #119
Creationist douchebaggery, no matter how well articulated or written jpak Feb 2013 #11
That's not how science works TrogL Feb 2013 #12
former Priest midwest irish Feb 2013 #116
Good luck finding a scientifically supported case for creationism in a high school science report LonePirate Feb 2013 #15
My daughter asked me what "imaginary numbers" were Nevernose Feb 2013 #53
Somebody brought that up in an argument in favour of Biblical literalism TrogL Feb 2013 #122
OR for an English Professor. Volaris Feb 2013 #76
"Evolutionist view" ... Uh, you mean "the view" of 99.99999999999 percent of all legit scientists? Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #17
You're comparing apples and oranges. n/t. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #25
"Apples" as in the apple that the first woman on the planet ate, you know, 4,000-6,000 Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #34
LOL dlwickham Feb 2013 #45
bzzzt. gigantic fail. Science is fact based and fantasy cali Feb 2013 #24
You gotta be kidding me... nadinbrzezinski Feb 2013 #33
This has to be sarcasm! Walk away Feb 2013 #35
You're joking, right? GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #38
"Academic freedom" = the right to be ignorant. The Stupid Party strikes again! LeftinOH Feb 2013 #5
Remember about 7 or 8 years ago midwest irish Feb 2013 #117
The ignorant Oklahoma Legislature redstatebluegirl Feb 2013 #6
and apples are the fruit of the devil Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #7
The great scientists of our past looked outside the theories and laws of their times. backtoblue Feb 2013 #10
But how can you support evidence that does not exist? trumad Feb 2013 #19
Very true backtoblue Feb 2013 #29
You belittle them by giving them an F for bullshit. trumad Feb 2013 #30
You really need to take a science class Blecht Feb 2013 #62
I believe that Pi = 3, as stated in the Bible. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #82
Is that in the Book of Armaments? Throckmorton Feb 2013 #102
It's a theory about evolution called "natural selection" thru mutation. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #90
That totally backwards. Anyone who can "prove their thoughts" pro creationism deserves a Nobel prize Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #110
I didn't say that they could prove it. I said they should try to if that's what they believe. backtoblue Feb 2013 #112
They can try all they want. They will still get a richly deserved F. Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #113
I believe rainbow-sparkle unicorns exist. My source? My own ass. I pulled that theory out of it. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #36
Evolution is Not a religion kiri Feb 2013 #69
You should make this it's own post! Marrah_G Feb 2013 #75
ALEC sponsored legislation...they're doing it in other states...phuckers...knr joeybee12 Feb 2013 #14
This is just more batshit insane legislation that doesn't stand a chance. cali Feb 2013 #22
I don't have an issue with students not accepting everything they're being taught in science class hughee99 Feb 2013 #27
Creationism is not not not a scientific viewpoint. Occulus Feb 2013 #43
If a student wants to bang his head against the wall trying to prove creationism hughee99 Feb 2013 #48
No, creationism has an invisible deity as a component, which is by definition unprovable. Occulus Feb 2013 #49
Then let the student realize that for themselves. hughee99 Feb 2013 #56
When did the American Taliban take over our schools? Initech Feb 2013 #28
Sure, why the fuck not!?!?! Rex Feb 2013 #32
Let's not forget Vampires and werewolves Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2013 #41
A kick for more eyes on OK and its craziness. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #37
If this is science education in Oklahoma, better check to see where your Doctor is from--the SOONER kairos12 Feb 2013 #39
Not to nitpick with the thread title, OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #40
They should be getting F's for advocating "creationism" GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #42
Well, in a biology course, they should... Blue_Tires Feb 2013 #44
Creationism is completely and utterly unverifiable nonsense based on a fictional work kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #46
in a Science Class it should JI7 Feb 2013 #47
Wow... just...wow. Apophis Feb 2013 #51
Actually the Democrats in Congress are trying to coexist with dinosaurs, but the dinosaurs are an still_one Feb 2013 #52
If only a targeted meteorite would take them out ... Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #54
There is plenty of photographic evidence proving this theory. Nye Bevan Feb 2013 #55
Gee I wish I could have received an A for whatever I believed was a correct answer on exams. Lint Head Feb 2013 #57
That's like giving students an A in "Abstinence Only" class, for having sex on a desk. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #59
If this passes you will see some hillarious "science" papers. n/t Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #60
lol Notafraidtoo Feb 2013 #61
They are encouraging and rewarding MynameisBlarney Feb 2013 #63
Of course humans and dinosaurs co-existed. I have proof. Fla Dem Feb 2013 #64
More proof? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #65
Jesus said: "Let the little Sinosauropteryx and Microceratops come to me, and forbid them not, Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #83
He also said..... trusty elf Feb 2013 #99
Flintstones - who's the green guy???? Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2013 #85
That's the Great Gazoo LibertyLover Feb 2013 #87
Where Oklahoma Common Education Committee fits into the grand scheme of things: Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2013 #66
It's pasta, all the way down IDemo Feb 2013 #67
RAmen! n/t RoccoR5955 Feb 2013 #94
Will they be able to use episodes of "The Flintstones" or Jim Henson's "Dinosaurs" as references? rwsanders Feb 2013 #70
They probably got their ideas from the Ica stones of Peru.... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #72
If I were A Kid in an Oklahoma History Class Wolf Frankula Feb 2013 #74
"...afraid of going against what they see in their textbooks" Ezlivin Feb 2013 #77
k & r stuntcat Feb 2013 #81
Lewis Black on creationism: Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2013 #84
oklahoma: blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #91
Well, I'm moving to Oklahoma! Stonepounder Feb 2013 #92
Academic freedom doesn't mean a student can put wrong answers on a test and still get credit. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #93
Once again another state attempts to prove that ignorance can be taught Major Nikon Feb 2013 #95
Oh the Humanity! triplepoint Feb 2013 #96
That's what made the Dark Ages bearable Turbineguy Feb 2013 #101
This is child abuse. mwb970 Feb 2013 #103
Careful...on the religion board skepticscott Feb 2013 #120
Does electricity still flow from positive to negative? nt. MrYikes Feb 2013 #105
Technically the "holes" do intaglio May 2013 #127
Welcome to Costco damnedifIknow Feb 2013 #107
I guess the GOP didn't get Jindal's memo... iandhr Feb 2013 #108
Have you read the Louisiana Science Education Act exboyfil May 2013 #126
Sharing far and wide. thanks for letting us know about this. Unbe-effing-believable. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #111
It would do less damage to these kids if they just stopped teaching altogether. nt Ed Suspicious Feb 2013 #114
Let'em watch The Flinstones for their science, it would be right up their alley,,,, benld74 Feb 2013 #115
What really weirds me out about this is... fromwyoming Feb 2013 #118
The earth is flat and the sun revolves around it The Flaming Red Head Feb 2013 #121
Yet more evidence of fundamentalism's danger to education.. YoungDemCA Feb 2013 #123
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