Speaking of HUBRIS, This is the Reason WHY Republicans HATE Chuck Hagel

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6. You say that as if I claimed otherwise. I did not mentionn others. I do not want either to be

President. Sorry if that stuns you, but I have a basic opposition to the rewarding of failure and error coupled with the punishment or shunning of excellence in politics and in all other aspects of our culture.
23 Senators displayed more discernment and wisdom than Chuck did when it counted, Chuck just voted along with the Republicans like he always did. Like he did when he voted against any pro gay legislation, against choice, against civil liberties protections. The folks trying to cast Hagel as an opponent of the Iraq War are the folks who rewrite history. Hagel supported the war for years on end. Voted for it.
As I said in my post, his supporters can not demonstrate using actual voting record that he is different from other Republicans. Your verbiage of course contains no such demonstration.
So thanks for proving that point again, so well with the 'the other kids did it too' defense. That always impresses me, it is so valid to claim that one person's actions are mitigated by the actions of another!

And edited to add that Kerry and Clinton did vote for the war, they are not also Republican anti choice and anti gay crusaders as Hagel is. I don't support either for President, but to claim they are 'the same' as Chuck requires us to ignore the reality of Hagel's voting record.
To me, Hagel's voting record matters.