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HiPointDem

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Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:03 AM Feb 2013

"Everything reported is strictly legal, just as Hitler’s extermination of the Jews was legal" [View all]

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“In what follows it should always be remembered that there is no question of illegality involved. Everything reported is strictly legal, just as Hitler’s extermination of the Jews was legal – a little point I mention merely to suggest how much weight one may attach to the notion.”

– Ferdinand Lundberg, The Rich and the Super-rich


It was not an earth-shaking decision made this past December by the Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit in New York, if one goes by the breadth of media coverage.... But it was certainly a judicial moment to take note of...the second worst judicial decision of the still-young century, a nose behind the notorious Citizens United ruling, which begot this horror.

U.S. v. Caronia involves Big Pharma, shedding a gloomier darkness on that already stygian world. Plaintiff Alfred Caronia is or was a sales rep for the wonderfully named Orphan Medical, which makes a drug named Xyrem. Xyrem has been approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for a restricted use: namely, to treat narcoleptic patients suffering from cataplexy, once known as hysterical paralysis. The laws currently state that doctors are free to prescribe drugs for “off-label” – i.e., unproven – applications. However, drug manufacturers cannot promote off-label uses. Their marketing statements are limited to the range of uses approved by the FDA, based on the results of clinical testing. These have long been the rules of the game.

But minor matters of science, legality and ethics couldn’t stop a go-getter like Mr. Caronia. In his spiel to prescribers, he would make a series of wishfully inflated claims for Xyrem, claiming it could be of use for everything from Parkinson’s syndrome to fibromyalgia to “restless leg syndrome.” He also informed doctors that the drug was safe for patients under the age of 16, although a black box warning printed on the label bluntly states that it has not been tested for safety and efficacy on children. There was good reason to be cautious in this regard, as Xyrem is essentially a gussied-up form of GHB, the date-rape drug...

Some of Mr. Caronia’s mendacious sales pitches to doctors were caught on tape. Unruffled ...the wayward rep went on the offensive, charging that the regulations requiring strict honesty in his presentations to physicians were a violation of his sacred First Amendment rights...

To my mind, and I hope to others’, the correct judicial response to this plea would have been a rude chortle and a summary dismissal. But we live in earnest times, when a corporation’s right to pry the last nickel from a prostrate and overdosed public is considered by many... to be the very keystone of the edifice of freedom. And so the three-judge panel sided with the plaintiff, declaring that “the government clearly prosecuted Caronia for his words – for his speech...”


http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/02/15/strictly-legal/


What a fucking travesty. What a shit system.

Edited to add that the Scaife-funded Washington Legal Foundation 'handled the First Amendment issues". So the posters talking that up here -- that's whose POV you're promoting.

Caronia was represented on appeal by his court-appointed lawyer, Jennifer
McCann of the Long Island, New York-based law firm Thomas F. Liotti, LLC. The
Washington Legal Foundation, however, handled briefing and oral argument on all First
Amendment issues.
WLF filed its briefs with the pro bono assistance of Michael A.
Carvin and Eric E. Murphy, attorneys with the Jones Day law firm. Murphy presented
WLF’s oral arguments on First Amendment issues.


http://www.wlf.org/upload/litigation/litigationupdate/012813RS.pdf

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I have long noticed Summer Hathaway Feb 2013 #1
I have noticed lots of posters prefer to attack the messenger rather than address the content. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #2
So saying that I've noted your posting pattern Summer Hathaway Feb 2013 #3
Did you have something to say about the post? Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #17
Odd? Summer Hathaway Feb 2013 #30
Wow, full Godwin in the OP Recursion Feb 2013 #4
Physicians have always been free to prescribe off-label, as the article notes. The article is about HiPointDem Feb 2013 #5
A psychiatrist's take, on why what you advocate is problematic Recursion Feb 2013 #9
What a mess that is, and how to begin... HiPointDem Feb 2013 #10
Recursion: peer reviewed journals are no longer as pristine and reliable as they once were GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #15
yes, they're being corrupted, and it's so much trouble to do trials, pharmacorps would like to HiPointDem Feb 2013 #23
The corruption of the science gives the lie to "the sales rep was quoting peer-reviewed journals" GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #26
in this case, however, the rep was saying things like "it's safer than salt," & "it's safe for HiPointDem Feb 2013 #32
True. But, sadly, there are many drugs not tested on kids that are being prescribed GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #34
Counterpunch- closely related to worldnutdaily cali Feb 2013 #6
But it's only banned as a source in one group on DU, oddly enough Recursion Feb 2013 #7
I'm not suggesting that Counterpunch should be banned cali Feb 2013 #12
here's a better one, & i don't think you understand what pharmacorps are doing here. what they HiPointDem Feb 2013 #13
Free speech is now a "corporate personhood right" that equals the right to misinform consumers. GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #16
What group is Counterpunch banned from? And why? nt bananas Feb 2013 #48
I/P Recursion Feb 2013 #49
maybe you could try rebutting the facts, then. rather than just disparaging the source. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #8
Why? Because you don't like what I had to say? cali Feb 2013 #11
I don't believe it is as much of a stretch as you might think. GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #19
"since this system is global and there is no way out." HiPointDem Feb 2013 #21
This is why property rights and water collection are under assault GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #27
Excellent post. woo me with science Feb 2013 #31
Even oddball sources have their uses, especially if backup documentation can be found GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #20
For some strange reason, the poster doesn't use wsws.org anymore... SidDithers Feb 2013 #24
Xyrem IS actually helpful for all of those things, tavalon Feb 2013 #14
then it should be easy to do some clinical trials to prove it. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #22
Why would the government go after an effective medication? GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #33
I have been told that is because of its effects. Occulus Feb 2013 #46
No, it was becoming well known as a sleep aid tavalon Feb 2013 #50
Going Godwin in the OP... SidDithers Feb 2013 #18
You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #25
I've been beating this drum since I arrived on DU and yet have been Cleita Feb 2013 #28
The problem, Cleita, is that the Nazis are demons in the American psyche, not people with evil ideas GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #38
Well... THAT was a kind of profound set of observations. Occulus Feb 2013 #47
Bookmarking gateley Feb 2013 #29
I am very proud of our 1st Amendment. Laelth Feb 2013 #35
nothing to do with freedom of speech. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #36
Hmm ... Laelth Feb 2013 #37
Freedom of speech does not allow you to commit fraud GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #39
Your quarrel is with the Court, not me. Laelth Feb 2013 #41
I'm not quarreling with you, but my disagreement is with your conception of the First Amendment GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #44
or it could have something to do with right-wingers & neoliberals pushing their agenda, and HiPointDem Feb 2013 #40
That's a pretty serious charge. I will leave it at that. n/t Laelth Feb 2013 #42
Scaife-funded foundation pushing deregulation of Pharma as first amendment issue. How HiPointDem Feb 2013 #43
Interesting bunch of fellow travelers here, HiPointDem GiaGiovanni Feb 2013 #45
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