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AverageJoe90

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15. No, and in fact, China is on it's way out, no matter how much cash TPTB throws at 'em.
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 07:08 AM
Feb 2013

And the truth is, even though we have indeed markedly declined, we're not at risk for total collapse at this moment.

China, unfortunately, is, and the problems may begin to happen sooner than we think. The housing & industrial bubble, demands for more wages, and an ever increasing amount of discontentment making itself known over there, and many other things are slowly, but surely, combining to create the perfect storm.

If China DOES change in time, then it will likely be able to weather the coming difficulties without much serious long-term trouble. But if not, and if the nation's elite continue to try to preserve this faux-Marxist(Mussolinian corporate fascist is what it really is, make NO mistake)system that's been in place for the past few decades, then I'm afraid that China's collapse may be quite inevitable(and possibly extremely bloody at that!). And if that comes to pass, the short-term effects, sadly, will likely make the recession of '08 look like a cakewalk, and that's just on the economic side of things.

TBH, the powers that be would LOVE for China as it exists today to be the next superpower; it's their ultimate model for what they'd like to see implemented in the rest of the world; I think the only major difference here would be that, at least in today's China, a good number of the people still believe, sincerely, that they're a benevolently governed socialist society. But in America, it would instead be operated under a Teabaggeresque Randian shadow, and with Teabaggers as our role models. And many of us would know the terrible truth, which might make our situation all the more deplorable.

Starving the government meant starving everything the government does Warpy Feb 2013 #1
You mean the War Profiteers ErikJ Feb 2013 #6
It is all down hill from here. ThomThom Feb 2013 #2
America's best days were immediately after World War II. OceanEcosystem Feb 2013 #3
if we can somehow wrest power from the super-rich, this country still has huge potential unblock Feb 2013 #4
It's been an absolute shit storm since Reagan. Initech Feb 2013 #5
There is no need for Wage Slaves to be educated. bvar22 Feb 2013 #7
These data describe a right-wing-soused society wherein government has long acted almost solely in indepat Feb 2013 #8
They claim we are Broke, yet there are trillions offshore. ErikJ Feb 2013 #9
I read this in 2011... Bigmack Feb 2013 #10
No, and in fact, China is on it's way out, no matter how much cash TPTB throws at 'em. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #15
Empire is an idea whose time is past. bemildred Feb 2013 #18
"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between." Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #11
No. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #12
Yeah, I think so Prophet 451 Feb 2013 #13
Well, if it really IS too late(which isn't necessarily true, btw), why fight at all? AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #16
Self-respect Prophet 451 Feb 2013 #19
Yes, by all accounts, you are indeed wrong. AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #20
Yes they are. SheilaT Feb 2013 #14
Yeah, and we still have the same war-mongering assholes running the place too. bemildred Feb 2013 #17
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