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Yavin4

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42. "if he'd gone the conventional route....

Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:22 PM

Feb 2013

I'm pretty sure that if he'd gone the conventional route, no one would ever have known his story, and he knew that and figured this was worth it.

Why do you say that? There's plenty of media that would have published his evidence. I completely disagree with your statement. If you have any hard evidence about corruption in the LAPD, there are tons of media outlets that would have listened to your story.

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There were other options [View all] Hugabear Feb 2013 OP

For what purpose should they have waited out? What would that accomplish? LisaL Feb 2013 #1

So that justice could have been delivered. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #6

Dorner killed himself. Didn't matter how long they waited dbackjon Feb 2013 #70

Dykes had a child for a hostage is the difference backtoblue Feb 2013 #10

PRESUMABLY? Hugabear Feb 2013 #44

I'm not sure, but I believe they did know there was nobody in the cabin. This is a winter resort. robinlynne Feb 2013 #50

Fuck Dorner sharp_stick Feb 2013 #2

And fuck the blood-lust crowd Hugabear Feb 2013 #9

No, it's not hard to believe, considering the number of posts about it. On, and on, and on. LisaL Feb 2013 #12

I agree they had few options BUT it is right to spend some time marions ghost Feb 2013 #61

This is the second thread where some of the comments made me think I was on a liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #13

Well I guess we are not all carbon copies of each other. LisaL Feb 2013 #15

it does surprise me when democrats act like republicans liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #18

Oh please. This has nothing about acting like republicans. LisaL Feb 2013 #22

Maybe at heart tblue Feb 2013 #23

"if he'd gone the conventional route.... Yavin4 Feb 2013 #42

Really? tblue Feb 2013 #65

that's how authoritarians are programmed to think.. frylock Feb 2013 #26

Oy. Yup. tblue Feb 2013 #68

I don't think a "non-violent" approach is considered when someone shoots police. when someone kills robinlynne Feb 2013 #29

I understand the non-violent approach appreciation Dorian Gray Feb 2013 #71

Once again, for the hard of understanding... sibelian Feb 2013 #51

Oh, disapproving of reckless police tactics means I'm a Dorner fanboy? backscatter712 Feb 2013 #69

Agree HERVEPA Feb 2013 #3

So they should sit out there in the snow day and night for however long? LisaL Feb 2013 #5

Police routinely conduct standoffs Hugabear Feb 2013 #7

What does liking the job have to do with it? nt. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #8

I wouldn't choose to be in law enforcement. They did. HERVEPA Feb 2013 #20

How would waiting prevent cops from being killed? LisaL Feb 2013 #24

Was there any reason to expose cops to someone holed up who they knew was a cop-killer? Hugabear Feb 2013 #27

actually they kept from being shot. They did exactly what you are suggesting; eliminated the possibi robinlynne Feb 2013 #33

Stay behind something that blocks metal?? HERVEPA Feb 2013 #35

give me convenience, or give me death.. frylock Feb 2013 #30

not about normal. This felt like the hunt for Osama Bin Laden, as many people said. robinlynne Feb 2013 #36

that's just ridiculous hyperbole.. frylock Feb 2013 #41

I live in Los Angeles. That is how it felt. POlice were out shooting people becuase they were in robinlynne Feb 2013 #47

kinda underscores some of the accusations leveled at the cops IMHO.. frylock Feb 2013 #48

no reason cept that toasting him meant no long drawn out trial 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #4

true that frylock Feb 2013 #32

Dorner was a sharpshooter. Should they have surrounded the area and waited to be picked off? randome Feb 2013 #11

According to many on DU, sure. LisaL Feb 2013 #14

They probably did SOMETHING wrong at some point in their lives, right? randome Feb 2013 #16

this. he was a sniper and had the training to pick of Leo counter snipers loli phabay Feb 2013 #31

It appears they send in tear gas. LisaL Feb 2013 #49

First they bashed the walls of the cabin marions ghost Feb 2013 #63

And what? Light House Feb 2013 #17

I'm taking a hard line on this, sorry. Avalux Feb 2013 #19

I must agree with you. It was all his choice. RebelOne Feb 2013 #25

taking hard lines is the hallmark of conservative thinking frylock Feb 2013 #34

Why are you insulting me? Avalux Feb 2013 #59

my apologies.. frylock Feb 2013 #60

Apology accepted.... Avalux Feb 2013 #62

awwwwwwwwhhhhhh.. frylock Feb 2013 #67

Yes, and I dont think he had any intention of being arrested either. robinlynne Feb 2013 #52

What's your expertise in this area? JoePhilly Feb 2013 #21

I second your post. Would very much like to know COLGATE4 Feb 2013 #28

hind sight being 20/20 and all..... Sheepshank Feb 2013 #40

And accepting whatever authority tells you without question is how we should think? Hugabear Feb 2013 #43

your extreme/absolutism interpretation of what I said is a defensive response. Sheepshank Feb 2013 #46

The fact that it's been done before, and we know the technology exists Hugabear Feb 2013 #37

I simply want to know your level of expertise ... and you attack me personally? JoePhilly Feb 2013 #45

So if I'm not an "expert" then I should just STFU? Hugabear Feb 2013 #54

Did I say "STFU?" ... no. I did not. I asked you what you level of expertise is. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #55

The implication is that unless one is an "expert" in tactical response, then one shouldn't criticize Hugabear Feb 2013 #57

As I said, I asked, so I could better JUDGE how much credibility I should give to YOUR JoePhilly Feb 2013 #58

But that would've increased the chance that he'd be captured alive. egduj Feb 2013 #38

Did I miss something? We appear to assume that the PD touched off the house...... wandy Feb 2013 #39

There was yet another option: the motherfucker could have surrendered Dreamer Tatum Feb 2013 #53

How do we know that he didn't start the fire? EC Feb 2013 #56

Possibly. RebelOne Feb 2013 #64

There is recorded audio of the police saying "burn that motherfucker". They wanted him dead. Electric Monk Feb 2013 #66