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In reply to the discussion: Dorner admitted to killings, targeting lesbians for being 'misandrist' and defended Chick Fil-A [View all]msanthrope
(37,549 posts)55. Well, let me tell you that the law does not allow for fugitives to claim due process rights
while they are fugitive.
Dorner has the right to a peaceful surrender. He has the right to submit himself to custody. Failure to submit himself peacefully to surrender and capture will earn him a response designed to counter lethal force.
Mr. Dorner is a fugitive, in flight. He has very few options left.
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Dorner admitted to killings, targeting lesbians for being 'misandrist' and defended Chick Fil-A [View all]
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
OP
He'd best not at any time, under oath or not, if he wants the prosecutor not to bring it up.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#110
I was wavering on Dorner until you mentioned Chick-Fil-A. That's a game changer.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2013
#15
If what the presumed guilty writes abolishes their legal presumption of innocence prior to trial,
Occulus
Feb 2013
#19
Irony is this entire vendetta is because he refutes being found guilty of being a liar
dkf
Feb 2013
#137
presumption of innocence is a legal concept. No one is saying that Dorner shouldn't have
cali
Feb 2013
#25
NONE of which justifies his extrajudicial killing by any LEO. ALL accused in the US are
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#36
Well, let me tell you that the law does not allow for fugitives to claim due process rights
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#55
Yes, which isn't a "blaze of glory" like the other poster was talking about. (nt)
jeff47
Feb 2013
#47
Please use linear arguments. Now just what are you (anonymous person I've never
shcrane71
Feb 2013
#71
Point being, if you don't have any opinion as to whether he killed anyone, logically
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#75
What I believe is that there needs to be a trial in a court of law.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#76
OJ Simpson caused Nicole Brown's death by slashing her throat, but he committed
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#117
Oh, so you don't pay attention to facts unless they've been adjudicated in a court of law?
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#66
I'm saying that we as private citizens are not bound by the rules surrounding
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#74
I'm not convicting him. I am looking at the facts. The presumption of innocence applies
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#85
The law does not require private citizens to abstain from forming a factual belief
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#86
We, so that the system can truly work ,must not rush to judgment.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#121
People who don't know all the facts, and we will not know all till a trial, are.
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#124
And I am glad to know my way is seen as right due to 2 great documents.n/t
Lady Freedom Returns
Feb 2013
#147
You are completely, 100% incorrect re: trials, jurors, and the general public.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#114
Wow. He is sicko. He thinks that murdering will vindicate him. Makes no sense. Filled with hate...
Honeycombe8
Feb 2013
#73
He is the "alleged murderer" because he is innocent until found guilty by a court
Agnosticsherbet
Feb 2013
#80
Legally, I agree. But there are people accusing those who state that he did kill those
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#99
Dorner is one of the bad guys in this story. A stone cold killer who needs to got to trial.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#130
But you sure seem to be defending LAPD. Not a critical word toward the cop in my story, not a
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#140
It's definitive only if you're determined to put words in people's mouths.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#145
I put no words in your mouth, nor did you. It was your lack of words, your silence that I find
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#157
I do agree strongly, It just seems so obvious that it goes without saying.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#158
This is a discussion board and not a trial, in case you missed that salient tidbit.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#109
Dorner is mad because he is was found guilty by a court of lying about Evans kicking Gettler.
dkf
Feb 2013
#144
The court found there was not sufficient evidence to overturn the administrative decision.
morningfog
Feb 2013
#164
Yes, yes you're right, the real victim here isn't Monica Quan, it's Chris Dorner.
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#134
Characterization. We can read what others write. Upthread you accuse me of putting words in
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#155
And it was that passivity and silence that I found objectionable. Yet you claimed I put words
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#165
Talk about putting words into the mouth of another. When response fails you, you accuse others.
Bluenorthwest
Feb 2013
#170
Yes, you say something and then try to grade the responses because they did not
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#171
If you hate this guy and assume he killed them (because of his own admission)
geek tragedy
Feb 2013
#136