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Recall369

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25. I agree but...
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 07:00 AM
Feb 2013

I am sorry this post is so late but I have just joined the group and wanted to reply to this thread.
The Michigan right-to-work movement actually started a lot earlier than most people think. Toward the end of the Engler administration a then high ranking member of the Republican party met with a group in west Michigan that later became the nucleus of the Michigan Tea Party and told them that the ground work for Michigan's right-to-work plan was already in place. He maid references about such groups as the Koch brothers, epically David Koch, working through ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Committee) an organization basically founded and supported by the Koch brothers and other large corporation's, and backed by Dick DeVoss (Amway) The speaker than said "All we have to do is waite for the right governor to take office to put the plan into effect." I do not have the link right now to the video of this that appeared on YouTube but with a little bit of digging I believe it can be found. It is also documented that right after Snyder's election the Koch brothers through one of their many corporation's made a rather large donation to the Michigan Republican Governor's Fund which Rick Snyder has access to as was confirmed by an investigative report by WJR in Detroit right after the right-to-work bill passed the legislature and was sent to Gov. Snyder's desk. There is also a link going around the net comparing the Alec right-to-work bill and the Michigan right-to-work bill side by side and guess what the wording of each bill is almost identical paragraph by paragraph. Right after the Michigan legislature passed the right-to-work bill Mr. Bob King, president of the UAW stated that Republican legislators including Gov. Snyder had been threatened indirectly by the Koch brothers and Dick DeVoss that if they didn't vote for the bill that they would fund a recall of then and have them replaced by good Tea Party Members. This was also mentioned in many articles to follow in the Detroit Free Press.
I also agree that the Republicans may have shot themselves in the foot so to speak with this. But I think that what the Republican Party in Michigan is counting on is right before the election getting a large infusion of money into the state by people like the Koch brothers and DeVoss thanks to the U.S. Supreme Court decision in the Citizens United verse the Federal Election Commission in which the Supreme Court basically ruled in a 5 to 4 decision that corporations were consider people and that money was considered as free speech. The Republicans believe that they can use the money to fund a large propaganda and misinformation campaign through shell groups like American's For Prosperity, which was also organized by the Koch b bothers and supported locally hear in Michigan by DeVoss, to persuade and outright scare the uninformed voters of the need to voters Republican. This tactic was first used in the recall election of Gov. Scott Walker in Wisconsin and again in the last election this past November to defeat Prop. 2 the Save Our Jobs/Protect Michigan's Working Families. Remember the commercials about how if collective bargaining rights were put into the Michigan Contusion teachers would come to school drunk or high and your children would be molested in school ? As a matter of fact that is the major reason that Michigan Rising stopped the second Recall Snyder campaign. What's the use of going through all the money and work to get the recall of Gov. Snyder on the ballot to be outspent 20 to one by the opposition as they were in Wisconsin.
I believe that what we need to do right now until the election 2014 is to keep the issue of the Republicans and right-to-work fresh in the minds of the voters. We also need to back and support groups such as Citizens Against Citizens United and Move to Amend just to name a couple of groups fighting against all this undocumented money being pored into Local, State and Federal elections. If we can do that or at least shine the brightest light we can on these outside groups I believe that we will have a fighting chance in 2014.
I am sorry that this note is so long but when I get fired up I really get fired up. Like I said earlier all the information stated in this letter can be verified with a little digging on the internet. Thanks for listening to me rant. Recall369



























Anyone up for a recall? CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #1
Didn't we try that already? llmart Dec 2012 #4
Nope, not in Michigan. It was tried in Wisconsin. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #5
It was tried a year or so ago, and the recall effort fell short of the signatures. GreenEyedLefty Dec 2012 #7
Ah, thank you. I was unaware of the prior effort. CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2012 #8
oh dear ilikemaps Dec 2012 #13
it ain't gonna hurt either HankyDub Dec 2012 #17
No, way to costly... TruthTeller Dec 2012 #15
Plan for 2014 and vote that asshole out of office. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #19
I agree 2014 is to much time to allow other anti worker legislation. midnight Dec 2012 #20
Chances are good that this fucker is going to get reelected if he runs MrScorpio Dec 2012 #23
its time for a general strike putitinD Dec 2012 #2
So cowardly! This is not over by a long shot, I'm sure. nt babylonsister Dec 2012 #3
I thought petitions went around..... llmart Dec 2012 #6
After Walker won, they called it quits. Coyotl Dec 2012 #9
The Republicans don't know what they are playing with here. Mr.Bill Dec 2012 #10
How Michigan’s Right-To-Work Law Came to Be Coyotl Dec 2012 #11
I hope they can stop this in court. In the meantime, for go it, Michigan. freshwest Dec 2012 #12
Evidently MI citizens forgot what Repubs did in WI . . . snot Dec 2012 #14
Dick "Amway" DeVos, together with his wife, Betsy "Blackwater" Prince DeVos, amandabeech Dec 2012 #16
The P-E-O-P-L-E ReRe Dec 2012 #18
A statewide strike by all unions is needed. HooptieWagon Dec 2012 #21
A couple of comments here tiredtoo Dec 2012 #22
This won't be forgotten for a few generations of voters, rest assured. They really are Coyotl Dec 2012 #24
I agree but... Recall369 Feb 2013 #25
Great rant. Welcome to DU. Coyotl Feb 2013 #26
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