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In reply to the discussion: Another Kind of Extra-Judicial Killing [View all]Vincardog
(20,234 posts)9. IF they were outside the authority of the court how would it be required that:
Such shootings are almost always determined later to be justified by a court or other body. Are you claiming that when a police snipper takes out a target that is the end of the process?
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IF they were outside the authority of the court how would it be required that:
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#9
No, and as we're seeing a drone strike is hardly the end of the process either
Recursion
Feb 2013
#11
Please link for me the judicial review of these drone strikes. The authority claimed is
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#14
What was leaked was the Administration's claim of an legal reasoning behind an unconstitutional
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#30
My problem is with the claim that the Administration can do them without review or oversight.
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#4
These acts are not limited to the military in a declared war. The authority claimed to
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#24
I am arguing that the powers claimed are illegal and unconstitutional. The actions should be
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#40
If the "war zone is out-moded" what is the source of the "War Powers"? A Seal Team
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#57
Then we must be seeing two different things. The Constitution says only Congress can declare war.
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#64
except that the Obama administration has just asserted that it is NOT SUBJECT...
mike_c
Feb 2013
#21
What was leaked was not what the Senate asked for and as Wyden points out... this "white memo"
Luminous Animal
Feb 2013
#39
Right, but this what the Senate got last summer, so oversight has been going on for a while.
Recursion
Feb 2013
#41
Oversight happens when the person or persons is given adequate information to provide oversight.
Luminous Animal
Feb 2013
#66
Huh? The man has already committed the crime of kidnapping and if the local is armed, the
Luminous Animal
Feb 2013
#67
In regards to level of scrutiny: So it is claimed but neither we nor our representatvies are allowed
Luminous Animal
Feb 2013
#75
No, it would be to have them executed on suspicion that he *might* do something someday.
Marr
Feb 2013
#77
If the drone pilot makes a mistake, the President can use the power of pardon anyway
FarCenter
Feb 2013
#53
"So long as the President is reasonably careful in who is on the targeting list" = Orwellian.
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#61
I think we have clear evidence that: 1. Pilots are not police; 2. Drone hits aren't sniper-accurate;
WinkyDink
Feb 2013
#60
The purpose of a police sniper shooting a suspect in that situation is not to kill the suspect
slackmaster
Feb 2013
#76