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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 07:49 PM Feb 2013

You want to know why Obama Admin is Wrong on Drone Killings? [View all]

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Many DU'ers say that the Bush/Obama Policy on killing is justified. You say that we need to be "Safe from Terrorist Plots" and if someone is found here in USA or Abroad by our "Intelligence Forces" as being Involved or Connected in Any Way with "Anti-American Activities that we have the right to pursue them in any place in America where they might be suspect and if they or their relatives or children are abroad (whether studying or working or backpacking through countries on college break or whatever) that THEY and their PARENTS can be TAKEN OUT on some kind of "Intelligence Information" that is not overseen by laws in a court of justice but based on our Executive in Chief and the Legacy of Bush Operatives in our faulty Intelligence Agencies who might mean well but have their OWN flaws along with their own objectives. I think the ACLU's Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director of ACLU has some very persuasive arguments about WHY this IS NOT TRUE...and WHY the PEOPLE of USA should be very concerned about how these Targeted Assassinations go forward in conflict with our American Constitution.

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Kill List Exposed: Leaked Obama Memo Shows Assassination of U.S. Citizens "Has No Geographic Limit"


The Obama administration’s internal legal justification for assassinating U.S. citizens without charge has been revealed for the first time. In a secret Justice Department memo, the administration claims it has legal authority to assassinate U.S. citizens overseas even if there is no intelligence indicating they are engaged in an active plot to attack the United States. We’re joined by Jameel Jaffer, deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union. "If you look at the memo ... there’s no geographic line," says Jaffer. "The Obama administration is making, in some ways, a greater claim of authority [than President Bush]. They’re arguing that the authority to kill American citizens has no geographic limit." [includes rush transcript]

TRANSCRIPT from ACLU's Jmeel Jaffer speaking with Amy Goodman, HERE:

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/2/5/kill_list_exposed_leaked_obama_memo

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I keep thinking of the explosion this would cause if BUSH was still in the WH MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #1
The double standard is mind boggling. forestpath Feb 2013 #5
DU would be red hot with condemnation. MNBrewer Feb 2013 #9
In other words Bainbridge Bear Feb 2013 #16
The Republic is dead. MNBrewer Feb 2013 #18
HELL NO, the Democratic Class is dead, I've heard KakistocracyHater Feb 2013 #19
Hence the death of the Republic MNBrewer Feb 2013 #21
technically isn't America a Democratic Republic? KakistocracyHater Feb 2013 #22
.... bigwillq Feb 2013 #10
Yes, and then the long boring posts trying to justify it. Amazing. n-t Logical Feb 2013 #33
So many paranoid hypotheticals. nt EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #2
I still say it's the sinister-sounding word 'drone' that gets them going. randome Feb 2013 #4
I'm sure you forgot the :sarcasm: tag Flying Squirrel Feb 2013 #23
There is so little left of our constitution Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #3
There is a campaign on the internets...to say..Constitution doesn't matter... KoKo Feb 2013 #32
Doesn't matter? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #34
they and their parents? relatives? children? abelenkpe Feb 2013 #6
If you are "associated with Threats to USA by blood or fraternization.. KoKo Feb 2013 #7
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #8
I'm glad someone is speaking out. Peace_Sells Feb 2013 #11
This is the logic and morality of a rogue state. The U.S. will never be a credible DirkGently Feb 2013 #12
This DUer is too stunned to comment. liberalmuse Feb 2013 #13
Drone killings or ANY killings Flying Squirrel Feb 2013 #24
This is mind-boggling. We have become a prison state, and plethoro Feb 2013 #14
1984 was supposed to be a warning, not a training manual green for victory Feb 2013 #27
Yes, I've read Orwell's book a few times, but, admittedly, not plethoro Feb 2013 #29
Just think if Romney was in office he could get rid oldbanjo Feb 2013 #15
K&R Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #17
kill on sight... there are rules quadrature Feb 2013 #20
Hundreds of thousands dead quaker bill Feb 2013 #25
du rec. nt xchrom Feb 2013 #26
Obama is doing what he said he would do. Soundman Feb 2013 #28
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2013 #30
No geographic limit....so drones could kill here in the US. Lars39 Feb 2013 #31
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