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Chorophyll

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8. These idiots ought to read the history of their own state.

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 09:36 AM

Feb 2013

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Roger Williams, Rhode Island's founder, was kicked out of Massachusetts because the powers that be (or the powers that were) didn't like his ideas about religion.

From Wikipedia:

Roger Williams (c. 1603 – between January and March 1683) was an English Protestant theologian who was an early proponent of religious freedom and the separation of church and state. In 1636, he began the colony of Providence Plantation, which provided a refuge for religious minorities. Williams started the first Baptist church in America, the First Baptist Church of Providence. He was a student of Native American languages and an advocate for fair dealings with Native Americans. Williams was arguably the very first abolitionist in North America, having organized the first attempt to prohibit slavery in any of the original thirteen colonies.

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Rhode Island flower shops shun atheist teenager [View all] DonViejo Feb 2013 OP

What a crock. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #1

I hope all four shops get their licenses revoked. DFW Feb 2013 #2

It probably won't get that far... backscatter712 Feb 2013 #44

send "dead flowers" msongs Feb 2013 #3

Can you imagine the outcry if the situation was reversed? Cirque du So-What Feb 2013 #4

this religious person dosent care either way leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #5

Steeped in pettiness? Silent3 Feb 2013 #7

well the prayer was hardly a prayer it was not mandatory to say (which is stated in the 1962 law leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #10

Oh, so you understand the 1st amendment more than Thomas Jefferson? trotsky Feb 2013 #16

i understand what i read in the constitution - here's the first amendment leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #19

I'm religious, too, but the law is clear: Public schools have to be neutral in matters of belief Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #22

i dont remember that law - nor do i know that that "prayer" was an "official"school prayer leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #30

you have no clue about the legal meaning of the word "mandatory" in this situation TeamPooka Feb 2013 #32

that doesnt make it mandatory - if you say a prayer for fear of someone saying something to you then leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #39

the school ruled it mandatory. You do not understand the law so there is no need to keep showing us TeamPooka Feb 2013 #40

So again, you think you know better than Thomas Jefferson. trotsky Feb 2013 #26

again i know what i read - im sure t.j. said a lot of things regarding the constution but we use leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #33

You THINK you know what you read. trotsky Feb 2013 #45

doesn't sound like you know anything about the constitution, nor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 CreekDog Feb 2013 #58

It's simple: No prayer, no religious indoctrination in public schools. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #34

i disagree but i love that gif of the 2 penguins is that real or edited - it hillarious leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #37

are you saying the Civil Rights Act of 1964 is unconstitional? CreekDog Feb 2013 #57

Ever hear the saying "walk a mile in their shoes??" Taverner Feb 2013 #49

Can you imagine the outcry if Jessica was black? Would that make the flower shops refusal "petty"? riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #11

well she's not black this is not about racism stop trying to derail it - stay focused - leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #12

So in your view an atheist speaking up is "petty", and deserves to be shunned by local businesses. riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #13

you got it wrong - we are talking about this situatution and not all situations are this one - but leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #15

Your the one who believes the girl is acting "petty" and the shops actions are "petty" riderinthestorm Feb 2013 #24

Oh, and there couldn't possibly be any parallels to consider! Silent3 Feb 2013 #14

that's your assessment not mine leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #17

Oh, and doling out a little blame to everyone somehow puts you above the fray? Silent3 Feb 2013 #20

yes it does - i have zero vested intrest in this - i never said wether it was right or wrong i said leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #50

Ah, so somebody who might be doing the right thing... Silent3 Feb 2013 #51

"the atheist" ROFL snooper2 Feb 2013 #25

How did Jessica Ahlquist misbehave? backscatter712 Feb 2013 #41

You need to stop posting and do some reading. ronnie624 Feb 2013 #43

You stay focused: The school was violating the law Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2013 #23

well i guess you settled it period. leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #46

The florists also violated the law. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #55

No, it's about discrimination. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #38

or it's about consequences for your actions - leftyohiolib Feb 2013 #47

And you're being deliberately obtuse. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #53

See the whole Chick-Fil-A shit from last year. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #36

A "dog camp" opened in the next town up from me. KurtNYC Feb 2013 #6

These idiots ought to read the history of their own state. Chorophyll Feb 2013 #8

"Forcd worship stincks in God's nostrils" was the money quote from Williams, IIRC hatrack Feb 2013 #9

Yes! That was "money" all right. Chorophyll Feb 2013 #21

The behavior of these florists was far from the worst of this episode. trotsky Feb 2013 #18

That's ok - they were just being petty too - just like the atheist. nt dmallind Feb 2013 #27

How was Jessica petty? Asking schools to follow the Constitution is not petty. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #29

Hehe, dmallind just forgot his sarcasm tag. trotsky Feb 2013 #31

Kind of like the cake shop which shunned the gay wedding. yellowcanine Feb 2013 #28

When you open your shop to the public, you cannot discriminate. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #35

What a load of BS pauldemmd195j Feb 2013 #42

The religious morality crowd proves once again they're the ones really without morals. Initech Feb 2013 #48

+1 stuntcat Feb 2013 #56

did God teach these people to be Rude, Hateful, Ignorant , Assholes ? JI7 Feb 2013 #52

They're two-book Christians. backscatter712 Feb 2013 #54