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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
23. Who said anything about blame?
Sat Feb 2, 2013, 08:46 PM
Feb 2013

No one used that term but you.

Many parents do want to help their children. They just don't know how or are working two jobs to pay the rent.


No one has said or implied otherwise. My comments are directed at those who have no interest in being good parents or good students. Holding good people up as a shield for the bad serves no one -- especially the good. Like it or not -- admit it or not -- they are out there and they have to be held to account for their actions.

There are many levels of intervention: good parenting, solid communities, shared values, trained educators, viable schools, social safety nets. Then there is also the occassional Come-to-Jesus moment, if the euphemism will be permitted, some people acquire after being confronted by life's consequences. But if every resource has been spent and every sincere effort exhausted, then what?

Sometimes I feel like progressives are too quick to blame everyone except the person who wants to be what they are. Where is the dignity in that? How punishing to the innocent and how insulting to the idea of free will. Those are the only people I'm addressing.

The single mom working 2 jobs isn't to blame -- she's a frickin' hero and a role model (too bad dad won't step-up and be a hero too) and she's probably riding herd on her kids to make a better life for themselves and avoid her circumstances. But I wasn't talking about her and she shouldn't be used to shield those who earn their critcisms.
The law offices of slaughter and may hem? datasuspect Feb 2013 #1
Sue the politicians too for cutting education monies Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #2
I have raised a similar issue before bluestateguy Feb 2013 #3
I know there must be some fair way of evaluating teachers pennylane100 Feb 2013 #5
we would get much further if we didn't war with one another liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #4
That is not what this post does. Sorry you don't understand. madfloridian Feb 2013 #7
I find myself agreeing Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #6
maybe we need more resources for alternative schools liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #8
Teachers are not the ones harming special ed students. That's the reformers mainly. madfloridian Feb 2013 #10
I agree. It is not the teachers or the parents. It is the people coming up with these policies. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #11
wisconsin is doing this... madrchsod Feb 2013 #13
Great find! FL McKay vouchers let just anyone have a school to take in disabled kids. madfloridian Feb 2013 #16
As Lover Boy says (albeit crudely) Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #12
That's just it just as we as a society have failed kids we as a society have failed parents liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #14
Yes, parents need help often. Resources are available in public schools... madfloridian Feb 2013 #17
I'm sorry I'm all for public education and I am completely against the reformers but liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #19
It also takes responsibility Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #18
wow am I on a democrat website or a freeper website liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #20
You are hearing wrong. We have been this route before. madfloridian Feb 2013 #21
Who said anything about blame? Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2013 #23
This is NOT THE ONION? Show her the door. NOW! /nt TheMadMonk Feb 2013 #9
It's not the Onion, but theaocp Feb 2013 #22
I think she has a good point--this wasn't her fault renate Feb 2013 #15
K&R Starry Messenger Feb 2013 #24
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