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In reply to the discussion: Why are those here who eat meat so defensive? [View all]laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Portion control of ANY food is desirable - it does not mean the food, in itself, is harmful. It CAN be if over used. So can meat. So can beans and legumes. So can plain water. So your argument is bunk.
Your body of research, as I said (and you clearly did not read my post because I specifically have already pointed this out) has a serious problem in that it only measures a plant based diet against the Standard American Diet. It's not measuring it against a Paleo diet - which makes the most sense from an evolutionary standpoint, or a vegetable-rich, grain-free, moderate meat (organic/grass fed, not-just-red)-intake diet. There is a distinct lack of research in this area, and therefore in no way can you say any of the research that has happened is irrefutable.
And, oddly enough, my health improved the minute I went off grains. Funny, that. Your insistence that your way is the only way is what alienates vegans from the very people who would otherwise support them.