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In reply to the discussion: "Public" charter school fines (unemployed) mom $3000 for her son's misbehavior [View all]Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)11. She has buyer's remorse over her former charter school enthusiasm.
The school were marketed heavily, but many parents are finding they were sold a bill of goods.
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Godard said, in her perspective, the only difference between public schools and charter schools is that the charters are being funded more. According to the Chicago Public Schools 2013 budget, charter schools will see a 13% increase in funding this year. Noble Network, a Chicago network of charter schools that includes Chicago Bulls College Prep, is expected to receive $69.9 million. On the other hand, traditional public schools, according to WBEZ Chicago, are expected to lose millions in funding in 2013.
The public schools arent failing, they just havent been given resources to succeed, Godard said about the reallocation of funding. Her fear is that public schools will cease to exist under Chicagos new push for charter schools, and she says she regrets buying into Mayor Rahm Emanuels secret sauce formula that created the push for charter schools in Chicago.
But the difference, some argue, is not just about education; its about real-world discipline. Rhonda Coleman, whose daughter is a student at Noble Networks Gary Comer College Prep, said parents were informed before sending their children to Noble schools about the code of conduct and behavioral expectations. We came on board knowing what to expect, Coleman said, adding there was nothing hidden during the open house she attended before sending her daughter to Gary Comer, and she signed a contract acknowledging the schools expectations. I think when reality hits, then parents realize, Oh my God, I have to pay.
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Godard still isnt convinced. All I heard about were behavior problems, but the teachers in the public school go above and beyond to work with students and parents on comprehension and learning, Godard said of her nine-year-old daughter, who now attends a Chicago public school. She is still looking for another school for her son.
http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/01/16/as-funding-debate-continues-parents-still-divided-on-charter-schools/
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"Public" charter school fines (unemployed) mom $3000 for her son's misbehavior [View all]
HiPointDem
Jan 2013
OP
I truly hope this mother posts the paperwork documenting these fines. It's an outrage. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#4
I think fines are terrible. I hope this mother posts the paperwork associated with these fines. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#5
She claimed 3k--now she's claiming it's only 2k? I really wish she would post some proof---
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#13
I am not blaming anyone--I simply want proof of hundreds of detentions logged by this
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#41
I wonder how much is late pickup fines? I found Amandla Charter fining for late pickup
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#74
Chicago is unusual; the union was involved in the charter process and runs some charters
Recursion
Jan 2013
#83
You are incorrect. Here is the Illinois code sections that allow transfer without records--
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#102
Easily disproved stuff only helps Noble. How do you make the case to parents and legislators
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#108
I wrote downthread that I don't agree with fining for behavior, with the exception of vandalism--
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#110
Could it be a better curriculum and environment?? Maybe the fines keep out the troublemakers
Pisces
Jan 2013
#105
Well--It's the Chicago Bulls Charter Prep. Here's the handbook--they are strict.
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#106
I'm kinda torn on this charter verses public school stuff. I don't think the parents should be
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#8
s "gifted" program gives "special education and extra help". it's you who's making no sense.
HiPointDem
Jan 2013
#34
you misunderstood me. both special ed programs and gifted programs give students special
HiPointDem
Jan 2013
#36
Is that why doctors hang pictures of the people they know on the walls instead of diplomas. n/t
hughee99
Jan 2013
#52
I don’t think students of that age really have the understanding of both sides of the argument....
busterbrown
Jan 2013
#21
Actually inclusion was pushed during the Reagan years not to benefit students but
duffyduff
Jan 2013
#45
Students are absolutely no judge of their education - they have no training and very little critical
mbperrin
Jan 2013
#81
I specifically stated that each school should get the same funding so that we get each child gets
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#53
No, there shouldn't. Public schools are designed to bring communities together
duffyduff
Jan 2013
#44
Hi Matt. I wasn't suggesting the schools be used for white flight. We adopted a few of our kids,
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
Jan 2013
#98
Absolutely they do. What I simply cannot understand is how it took 750 detentions for her to do
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#49
So you focus on the parent,ok-what about the "professionals" in this school?
MichiganVote
Jan 2013
#58
Do Illinois charters have to give a Behavior Support Plan? I don't think they do. nt
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#72
Charter schools that receive Federal funds must provide behavioral interventions.
MichiganVote
Jan 2013
#84
I have no doubt--but you have to accumulate 4 demerits before a single detention/fine of $5.
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#70
In a way, it is satisfying to read about Parents' buyers' remorse, when the school makes them suffer
nikto
Jan 2013
#20
Not feeling all that sympathetic, should have known the rules up front, and made the choice.
reverend_tim
Jan 2013
#29
I just looked at the Illinois Code...I think they can withold his report card to her.
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#50
Well, I'm not your partner, but what regulation do you think they didn't follow?
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#85
Per the rules governing 504 Plans, this child should have been evaluated for a 504 Plan.
MichiganVote
Jan 2013
#92
Tell me how you know nothing was initiated? Do you have this child's records? nt
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#94
Do you? Unlike you, I work this stuff. Parents don't go to the press if work is in progress.
MichiganVote
Jan 2013
#95
I taught kids adjudicated into care. I worked this stuff, too. Then I went to law school.
msanthrope
Jan 2013
#97
yet apparently they're doing it. i believe a lot of the stunts the banksters pulled were illegal as
HiPointDem
Jan 2013
#65
A new low in the Race To the Toilet initiative. This is criminal, truly criminal.
Jefferson23
Jan 2013
#88