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Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. Ah yes. The mr. Spock argument
Sun Jan 27, 2013, 07:29 PM
Jan 2013

Which states that any amount of emotion is a negative, and has no place anywhere. Only pure, undiluted "rationality" is acceptable to the Spock-er. The Spock-er ignores that McCoy was right more often than Spock except when Spock "let his human side" get the better of him"; the pair's interaction was specifically written to show the value and rightness of human (and humane) emotion over cold "logic." Which is a false dilemma anyway; emotion and reason are actually not in any conflict. Well, not in humans. Or Romulans. or even Klingons, Cardassians, Ferengi, or whatever those dudes with the hair from Voyager were called

It's a common argument made by libertarians and other far-right fuckheads who are shitting-their-pants scared, and whose own arguments don't really have any rational basis other than that fear. Apparently Progressives-with-asterisks are no less prone to it.

conservative writers, ... are calling the unfolding gun debate a "distraction" and a "red herring" Kolesar Jan 2013 #1
With due respect, I think that sounds silly. Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #2
No, it's a good sound bite. There are obviously a lot of Americans who are willing to let .... Scuba Jan 2013 #4
It's a GREAT sound bite. Squinch Jan 2013 #6
I totally disagree. Anyone who claims that doesn't understand the minds of gun owners.... Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #12
"Anyone who claims that doesn't understand the minds of gun owners...." Scuba Jan 2013 #15
Neither do you. My opinion is....it's a bad slogan that wouldn't convince anyone Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #16
What do you suggest? Lordquinton Jan 2013 #21
"I'm not anti-gun. I'm pro-reasonable gun control" Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #22
"Pro-Regulation" that's a good, and all around one as well Lordquinton Jan 2013 #25
Sorry, gun culture's ownership, accumulation of, promotion of guns is significantly responsible . Hoyt Jan 2013 #27
Just read the linked article... FarPoint Jan 2013 #5
"We aren't anti-choice. We are pro-life!" Same slogan. It doesn't convince anyone but the base who Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #13
Absolutely. Kids > Fetish. nt onehandle Jan 2013 #3
Is anybody proposing any "gun control" we haven't had, more or less, at some time in the past? AlbertCat Jan 2013 #7
Go ahead. These attempts to reframe the gun debate are why the AWB will fail. aikoaiko Jan 2013 #8
The article fails at the first "point" Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #9
Here's the list of proposals. If some of these are enacted, babylonsister Jan 2013 #11
Okay! Let's me look them over! Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #14
They can't drop the emotion because without it rational logic fails. galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #20
Ah yes. The mr. Spock argument Scootaloo Jan 2013 #28
You can say that again! Pholus Jan 2013 #29
Your grasp of galileoreloaded Jan 2013 #30
Bingo. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #17
And yet, amazingly, you have no clue what "side" I am on in this debate Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #23
Can't say I gave that any thought, actually. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #24
I'm anti-stupid and that's what the NRA is Cha Jan 2013 #10
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #18
I am anti-bullshit. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #19
Sadly we wouldn't be having this debate if... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #26
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