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Junkdrawer

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2. More and more like Beirut / Baghdad every day.

Sat Jan 26, 2013, 10:09 AM

Jan 2013

Are we seeing the beginnings of an American Strategy of Tension? Spread enough firepower so that the general population kills each other and justifies an oppressive Police State, but not enough firepower to overthrow said Police State?

More guns will not stop Government Tyranny - it justifies it.

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Police Assault Rifles Approved In Marion, Iowa; Department Joins Trend, Will Buy AR-15s For Officers [View all] onehandle Jan 2013 OP

Marion police are notoriously aggressive. mr_hat Jan 2013 #1

More and more like Beirut / Baghdad every day. Junkdrawer Jan 2013 #2

They are useful in some self-defense situations aikoaiko Jan 2013 #3

that seems to be more opinion than fact farminator3000 Jan 2013 #26

Yes, but it is the position of LEO who are issued AR-15s aikoaiko Jan 2013 #45

not the position of the one from my post, obviously. farminator3000 Jan 2013 #48

I kind of agree. Seems to be a limited-use weapon in general police work... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #54

AR's are great defensive options for Citizens and LEO's ileus Jan 2013 #4

Sorry, but "every family that enjoys firearms" should not have one, or two . . . . . . . Hoyt Jan 2013 #5

I don't know...my LEO BIL sold my wife his ileus Jan 2013 #6

Once again, the AR does not belong in civilian hands nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #9

Just curious, but how do you feel about the Ruger Mini-14? NickB79 Jan 2013 #25

Ah the usual game nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #38

Thank you for your honesty NickB79 Jan 2013 #41

I don't care if they are black nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #42

Actually Domestic Violence Calls are the Some of the Most Dangerous dballance Jan 2013 #37

And for EMS crews too nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #39

and CRIMINALS too. get it? farminator3000 Jan 2013 #10

Right, gunz gunz and more gunzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz DainBramaged Jan 2013 #12

And over the top they go. moondust Jan 2013 #7

It's a suburb of Cedar Rapids. Initech Jan 2013 #15

I'm familiar with the area. moondust Jan 2013 #17

nice one! farminator3000 Jan 2013 #29

Probably Rodney. moondust Jan 2013 #44

No money for schools but they have $50K to blow on dangerous weapons. Makes sense. Initech Jan 2013 #8

somebody should tell the gun bunnies about how their NRA-funded BS law-blocking farminator3000 Jan 2013 #11

Why does the artillery care about cops having ARs? SQUEE Jan 2013 #14

While I don't disagree with LEO's having... rppper Jan 2013 #13

Semi-Autos are NOT "Assault *Rifles*". An Assault *Rifle* is full auto... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #16

Not true. Gun shops and manufacturers market these guns as tactical and strategic weapons. Hoyt Jan 2013 #18

And again I say: You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own FACTS... Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #20

you are doing a disservice to your 'cause' farminator3000 Jan 2013 #34

What, exactly, is *my* "cause"?? Furthermore.. Ghost in the Machine Jan 2013 #60

And auto manufacturers marketed the Hummer NickB79 Jan 2013 #28

You've missed the point - sick people buy them for the tactical aspect. Hoyt Jan 2013 #33

yes, 'sick people' sounds about right farminator3000 Jan 2013 #35

NOT comfortable with increasingly militarized cops. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #19

+1 woo me with science Jan 2013 #61

Then they leave them in their cars Union Scribe Jan 2013 #21

no idea why his glock was left in the car. mine is always with me regardless of where i go loli phabay Jan 2013 #27

for two grand each i would expect them to be full auto. thats expensive for a semi auto basic loli phabay Jan 2013 #22

Not anymore (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #24

still expensive. i just ordered a rock river arms full auto carbine and i only paid twelve hundred loli phabay Jan 2013 #30

I'd bet the $2k per includes a service contract Recursion Jan 2013 #31

yup probuably. though id prefer to by my own as you can personalize it. loli phabay Jan 2013 #32

maybe the taxes will be raised to 50% of purchase price by the time you get your 'fun gun' farminator3000 Jan 2013 #36

Full Auto? RC Jan 2013 #47

no you just need to do the paperwork and pay the two hundred bucks stamp loli phabay Jan 2013 #49

That's it? $200 and some paperwork? RC Jan 2013 #50

well the paperwork is a background check and needs to be signed off by the sheriff or police chief loli phabay Jan 2013 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Jan 2013 #56

I'm wondering how you are buying a new full auto carbine ...... oldhippie Jan 2013 #57

New Hampshire Police Chiefs Hold a 31-Gun Raffle for a Training Program farminator3000 Jan 2013 #23

I have a stupid question... but it worries me... I have never owned a gun... nenagh Jan 2013 #40

Here's one. moondust Jan 2013 #46

The AR-15 would probably tend to reduce this. loose wheel Jan 2013 #53

Thank you.... nenagh Jan 2013 #58

ARs are particularly good in this regard. k2qb3 Jan 2013 #55

Thank you... nenagh Jan 2013 #59

Militarized pigs = doubleplusungood. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #43

What about escalation? geomon666 Jan 2013 #51