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Matariki

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19. Rape is NOT 'hard to define'. It's when a person says NO.

Fri Jan 25, 2013, 03:54 PM

Jan 2013

Or isn't in a condition to be able to say yes or no. Sheesh.

I can barely tell what you are trying to communicate. It *sounds* like you are trying to explain the epidemic numbers of sexual assault and harassment against women in the military as 'male soldiers needing companionship'. Which is both offensive and ridiculous.

If that's NOT what you're saying then please correct my misunderstanding.

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Gen Dempsey: Sex assault and combat ban are linked. [View all] riderinthestorm Jan 2013 OP

He has a good point there. Kalidurga Jan 2013 #1

I posted some stats for the IDF which actually has equal numbers of women and men. Good point nt riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #4

k&r obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #2

According to IDF military stats (they have full combat gender equality) sexual harassment rates @ 3% riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #3

there are an awful lot of layers between dsc Jan 2013 #32

I think it's more...military men away from girlfriends and wifes, lonely, needy companionship and libdem4life Jan 2013 #5

It's more than that--they are not respecting their female colleagues, and not maintaining TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #6

I understand that as does our family...from a military women's point..lots of things in the military libdem4life Jan 2013 #10

people don't rape because they're lonely and need companionship!!! Matariki Jan 2013 #7

Thank you. The fellow soldier who raped me already had a girlfriend LiberalLoner Jan 2013 #8

I really hope you've found some peace in your heart about this terrible crime. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #9

Thank you. I file it under the "no big deal" section of my memories to be honest. It does bother LiberalLoner Jan 2013 #18

I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope, but don't really expect, that the guy was punished? Matariki Jan 2013 #21

Thank you! No, never reported it. Read my post below for my explanation.... LiberalLoner Jan 2013 #22

I read that. It really sucks. Matariki Jan 2013 #23

I think he is right on the mark about needing increased respect LiberalLoner Jan 2013 #24

Please. The biggest problem is consensual sex. libdem4life Jan 2013 #12

I can't untangle what you are trying to say here. Matariki Jan 2013 #15

Consensual sex does not equal rape Jumping to the rape conversation makes it even harder to define libdem4life Jan 2013 #17

Rape is NOT 'hard to define'. It's when a person says NO. Matariki Jan 2013 #19

I am anti-war as it is aberrant for humans. War is rape carried out on an entire culture libdem4life Jan 2013 #25

Wait a minute are you saying rape doesn't happen in the military and it's all consensual? WTF? LiberalLoner Jan 2013 #20

No. If you deduce this from my many posts above, I'll try again. I absolutely respect you libdem4life Jan 2013 #26

I agree that I don't recommend young women enlist. Or become Officers. I hope it gets better but.. LiberalLoner Jan 2013 #27

Again, thank you for your service. libdem4life Jan 2013 #28

Rape is a violent act that's about power and domination The Blue Flower Jan 2013 #29

We agree ... the military excels in power and domination. That's my point. libdem4life Jan 2013 #30

These noble warriors auntsue Jan 2013 #31

I'd agree with that. polly7 Jan 2013 #11

I completely agree with him... Spazito Jan 2013 #13

I completely agree with General Dempsey... ellisonz Jan 2013 #14

This is an excellent point, and I definitely saw some of that Recursion Jan 2013 #16