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JackRiddler

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50. Excuse me, that's an argument against RFID.

Tue Jan 22, 2013, 12:37 PM

Jan 2013

Where do you work that needs to track y'all at all times?

Do you also have to provide your blood or piss? Would you apply the same argument to drug tests, that if you have to take them, so should every student? What about arbitrary searches of body and personal effects?

The point is that this system already has too much surveillance and arbitrary power concentrated in state and corporate authority. We shouldn't be training students to view it as a normal.

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Outlaw RFID tagging of compulsory school students [View all] Trillo Jan 2013 OP

Why ? I have to wear on at work, most large employers now require it. reverend_tim Jan 2013 #1

You can leave your job Tien1985 Jan 2013 #2

They are not required 24/7 jberryhill Jan 2013 #3

You don't need tracking technology Tien1985 Jan 2013 #5

"what's to stop the school from tracking students once they leave the grounds?" Thor_MN Jan 2013 #8

From what they are saying Tien1985 Jan 2013 #9

Answer the question jberryhill Jan 2013 #17

Rude much? Tien1985 Jan 2013 #20

Uh, yeah... jberryhill Jan 2013 #21

Or the place right next to it might... Tien1985 Jan 2013 #30

Okay, so moving on to another aspect.... jberryhill Jan 2013 #31

To some extent Tien1985 Jan 2013 #34

What's to stop them when the students leave the grounds? jberryhill Jan 2013 #11

Wouldn't the tracking software alert that one student carries two badges? immoderate Jan 2013 #42

Not if they are Tien1985 Jan 2013 #44

Well, every employer I have had for years now requires them too reverend_tim Jan 2013 #4

You have the choice Tien1985 Jan 2013 #6

So why... jberryhill Jan 2013 #13

So where is the student going to run into a reader off the school grounds, that is connected to the reverend_tim Jan 2013 #35

I grant my son Tien1985 Jan 2013 #41

Excuse me, that's an argument against RFID. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #50

Is this just student IDs with RFID tags in them? OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #7

Yes jberryhill Jan 2013 #12

You must be young, I grew up without such disgusting devices, you got flamingdem Jan 2013 #16

sarcasm? OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #22

I'll admit the concept of this is new to me but I wouldn't have stood for it flamingdem Jan 2013 #27

MANY retail and other places use them obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #29

I don't really come into contact with those devices much at all flamingdem Jan 2013 #32

If you shop, you have come into contact with them obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #49

I think accouning for students in school can be a good tool in accounting for their safety. OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #33

I still think safety schmaftety - the percent change of unsafe isn't worth the loss of freedom flamingdem Jan 2013 #38

It's not an age thing per say Tien1985 Jan 2013 #43

Thanks! I'm glad it's not a generational thing flamingdem Jan 2013 #46

I am 30 years old Harmony Blue Jan 2013 #40

Yes -- we have them at work, too obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #26

bouncing for the noon to morning crowd. NT Trillo Jan 2013 #10

What religious theology is opposed to identification items? This is ridiculous. RB TexLa Jan 2013 #14

something about the mark of the beast - they are coo-coo sammytko Jan 2013 #24

I really do not understand how anyone has an opposition to this on any grounds RB TexLa Jan 2013 #47

The Fourth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #51

Excatly how does a form of identification violate this: RB TexLa Jan 2013 #57

RFID chips are not a form of identification and you know this. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #58

Agree, I NEVER would have put up with this when I was in school, disgusting flamingdem Jan 2013 #15

You didn't have a school ID at all? jeff47 Jan 2013 #52

No, not in high school flamingdem Jan 2013 #55

And I got lots of student discounts by having one. jeff47 Jan 2013 #56

We didn't & we would have found it shocking. JackRiddler Jan 2013 #61

The petition got it right in the big issue, I think, but not the small one petronius Jan 2013 #18

What a waste of the White House petition feature RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #19

You mean, gasp, the executive branch of the federal government doesn't set school policy? jberryhill Jan 2013 #23

We have many much larger problems in education. proud2BlibKansan Jan 2013 #25

I don't disagree with RFID in school and work IDs, so no obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #28

No chip is being implanted. This is just more RW nuttery. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #36

You sure couldnt tell iamthebandfanman Jan 2013 #45

Opposing Big Brother is RW nuttery? davidn3600 Jan 2013 #53

not a bid deal...not a big deal...not a big deal... HiPointDem Jan 2013 #37

I am thouroughly disgusted that Harmony Blue Jan 2013 #39

Because I benefit from it jeff47 Jan 2013 #54

bouncing for the late-evening to evening folks. NT Trillo Jan 2013 #48

A few notes on the technology IDemo Jan 2013 #59

Just block the signal Revanchist Jan 2013 #60

Why are expulsions and suspensions dangerous to students, schools, and communities Trillo Jan 2013 #62

"Schools are already prisons" Trillo Jan 2013 #63