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derby378

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27. Believe it or not, guys, I'm cool with most of the Executive Orders

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:30 PM

Jan 2013

I have some questions about the CDC's approach to researching the causes and prevention of gun-related crime, but let's see if this produces some hard medical facts (i.e. lead levels in bloodstream weighed against propensity towards violence).

But most of this stuff is fine with me. We could use some additional data for our government to work with. You newbies should think twice about this - I'm a well-known gun-rights advocate here on DU, and I've got the Ignores to prove it.

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PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES 23 NEW EXECUTIVE ACTIONS! [View all] RomneyLies Jan 2013 OP

Calls for Congress to ban assault weapons RomneyLies Jan 2013 #1

Did he do that or are you just saying that? Maraya1969 Jan 2013 #138

HE made the call RomneyLies Jan 2013 #139

Not gonna happen Ter Jan 2013 #154

Probably, but that does not detract from the fact the he called for it. n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #155

Here's how you can call Congress, TOLL FREE! calimary Jan 2013 #158

K&R MotherPetrie Jan 2013 #2

INVOKES RONALD REAGAN'S SUPPORT FOR ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN! n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #3

I kept wishing the prez would also mention Shankapotomus Jan 2013 #31

Yeah Turbineguy Jan 2013 #79

Yee-haw! freshwest Jan 2013 #113

"Why I'm for the Brady Bill" by Ronald Reagan (required reading, IMO) SomeGuyInEagan Jan 2013 #118

The Brady Bill was a good piece of legislation... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #130

I LOVE that - "Jesus of 'Trickle-down'" phrase of yours! calimary Jan 2013 #157

GOING AFTER STRAW PURCHASES!!! N/T RomneyLies Jan 2013 #4

Does this cover rural auctions where they sell tons of firearms???? glinda Jan 2013 #35

The proposal is to require ALL gun purchases, regardless, to have a background check RomneyLies Jan 2013 #65

That doesn't address straw purchases.... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #82

Part of the proposal to Congress. RomneyLies Jan 2013 #89

OK Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #92

Unfortunately your completly wrong PrincetonTiger2009 Jan 2013 #116

That's #6 of Executive Actions, NOT the proposal RomneyLies Jan 2013 #117

Oh Golly.. PrincetonTiger2009 Jan 2013 #162

DO THIS NOW! bobclark86 Jan 2013 #62

Straw Purchasers are rampant here in MN. I think. I have seen one glinda Jan 2013 #76

....he called congress? did he call them right now? NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #5

Turn on NBC RIGHT NOW!!!111 greatauntoftriplets Jan 2013 #7

Did he do that little trumphet routine the Shrub did? 'Here to deliver a message from the POTUS!' freshwest Jan 2013 #114

congress won't do shit....at least not the house bowens43 Jan 2013 #6

Not this House, that's for sure primavera Jan 2013 #10

Won't be as easy as getting the Dems to go along with Iraq war? RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #14

Definitely not primavera Jan 2013 #55

Unfortunately I suspect very little will get done, unless as the President said Americans do still_one Jan 2013 #8

Gird those loins, kids. I smell a tidal wave of gun trolls at the gates. Squinch Jan 2013 #9

You weren't kidding Claybrains Jan 2013 #30

They're already here Floyd_Gondolli Jan 2013 #49

That's one of their favorites. I always wonder what they expect we will do when they say that. Squinch Jan 2013 #52

here's another--with 1000+ posts. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #66

Hey! Glenn Beck just published the same sentiments as that poster! Squinch Jan 2013 #77

Jury voted overwhelmingly that calling Obama cowardly and repugnant geek tragedy Jan 2013 #97

That's pretty disgusting. The one that has my skin still crawling was from yesterday Squinch Jan 2013 #99

We need Obama for America to have his back on this! Scuba Jan 2013 #11

Second time I've heard that phrase. What'd I miss? louis-t Jan 2013 #127

Yes, from both takes of "Clash of the Titans." Whovian Jan 2013 #134

Wow, that's one, wicked lizard! louis-t Jan 2013 #161

Is there a list of those 23 EO's anywhere? JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #12

They should end up here later today as he signs them RomneyLies Jan 2013 #13

See comment #152. Tx4obama Jan 2013 #153

Yep, was my bad n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #156

Here's a list - they aren't all EOs jeff47 Jan 2013 #15

Oh wow. Every last one of them is related to ENFORCE EXISTING LAWS! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #17

Yeah JohnnyBoots Jan 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author DonViejo Jan 2013 #51

The 23 'proposals' are NOT executive orders. They are Executive Actions/Proposals. Tx4obama Jan 2013 #152

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #16

Every last executive action is for the enforcement of existing law RomneyLies Jan 2013 #18

Uh huh...right Stuckinthebush Jan 2013 #21

???? lamp_shade Jan 2013 #22

the trolls have been loosed upon us. nt Javaman Jan 2013 #54

This one was a one post flame-out. As their numbers increase ... 11 Bravo Jan 2013 #83

Number 6 is great news Recursion Jan 2013 #19

THAT'S Them?? Where are the ones that actually try to control guns?? jmg257 Jan 2013 #20

Actual gun control requires legislation. backscatter712 Jan 2013 #23

He can ban the importation of foreign made firearms by EO. nick of time Jan 2013 #68

I'm pretty sure that would require legislation.... groundloop Jan 2013 #73

No it doesn't require legislation. nick of time Jan 2013 #80

But all of the guns... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #110

Good point. nick of time Jan 2013 #111

It's all good. bobclark86 Jan 2013 #129

11 is a big part of that Recursion Jan 2013 #24

It's a start. n/t cynatnite Jan 2013 #25

Believe it or not, guys, I'm cool with most of the Executive Orders derby378 Jan 2013 #27

I think its definitely worth researching rbixby Jan 2013 #34

His EO's Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #47

I completely agree SQUEE Jan 2013 #72

I see this a whole lot of nothing. Bake Jan 2013 #123

President Obama needs you! Zoonart Jan 2013 #28

Welcome to Du, Zoonart! And let CONGRESS know what you think! calimary Jan 2013 #137

I support every one of these actions. nt hack89 Jan 2013 #29

Allowing private sellers to use NICS would be terrific obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #32

That would have to be mediated by a dealer... jberryhill Jan 2013 #64

No, but as of right now, private sellers can't do one at all obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #141

Correct jberryhill Jan 2013 #142

Yup -- probably $5-$25 or so obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #143

Not necessarily Kennah Jan 2013 #159

It will probably be via a FFL holder hootinholler Jan 2013 #109

I figured, but that is a great idea obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #140

Since it's a regs change hootinholler Jan 2013 #145

I like all of these except number 2 Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #33

I agree obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #144

A good start Bjornsdotter Jan 2013 #36

No problem with them.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #37

All good. I especially like #23. nt rrneck Jan 2013 #38

I'm a pro-gun liberal. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #39

Oh, the right wing will argue against every last one of the these. groundloop Jan 2013 #81

I do think the mental health reporting protocol needs to be spelled out obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #146

On #4 will they add people like Rush to the mix? People that fan paranoia and hate? glinda Jan 2013 #40

Any start is a start annatee33 Jan 2013 #41

Kicked and recommended. Firebrand Gary Jan 2013 #42

Not one of these 'grabs' guns or ammo superpatriotman Jan 2013 #43

I don't like # 2 ... Myrina Jan 2013 #44

On board with no reservations. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #45

Number 9 will piss off a lot of gun folks. Robb Jan 2013 #46

It's the best of the bunch alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #74

And by requiring Federal LE to do it, they also have to develop a system. Robb Jan 2013 #78

It isn't that now obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #147

Yup. Robb Jan 2013 #150

Doesn't piss me off.. sir pball Jan 2013 #100

Like a Tapir: Rumors were in the neighborhood of 19... Barack gave them 23, with some to spare.... NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #48

Those of us in RED states HockeyMom Jan 2013 #50

No objections to the 23 items listed in the OP Lurks Often Jan 2013 #53

President signs gun control EO's liked by both Gungeoneers and other DUers Recursion Jan 2013 #56

Hey, who'da thunk it? derby378 Jan 2013 #58

As a pro-gun DUer I'm okay with the list. guardian Jan 2013 #57

Mass shootings are bad drivers of policy Recursion Jan 2013 #59

Unfortunately mass shootings are NOT rare anymore. groundloop Jan 2013 #87

If you graph gun homicides, mass shootings still aren't even visible Recursion Jan 2013 #95

WOW! "Launch a national dialogue" ... I am amazed! mrsadm Jan 2013 #60

How to get more than 27 states complying with the MH reporting to NICS... Historic NY Jan 2013 #61

All good measures. nick of time Jan 2013 #63

Because that already exists? ie. 922r. SQUEE Jan 2013 #93

That already exists and it's why AR15's trigger housing mechanisms have to be put on in the US Recursion Jan 2013 #96

Got it. nick of time Jan 2013 #98

Great Great Start now the President is asking humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #67

No ban on extended mags or AR's? How disappointing Elmer fudd Jan 2013 #69

The concern you've expressed in your very first post is concerning RomneyLies Jan 2013 #75

Good! Elmer fudd Jan 2013 #88

Well let me be the first of many to say, thank you for your concern. n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #91

He called on congress to enact the proper legislation nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #85

I was wondering... Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #90

What he could have done nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #103

Poisoning the well, perhaps? Jeff In Milwaukee Jan 2013 #108

EO's are not legislation. Jennicut Jan 2013 #94

Thanks for your post MannyGoldstein Jan 2013 #126

+1 milwaukeelib33 Jan 2013 #133

I'm good with these so far. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #70

thank you Mr. President samsingh Jan 2013 #71

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system. DreamGypsy Jan 2013 #84

We need an ATF director. Jennicut Jan 2013 #86

KnR Hekate Jan 2013 #101

I Listened To A Mother Of One Of The Sandy Hook Victims Yesterday Talk About HIPPA Law.... global1 Jan 2013 #102

Not to be a grammer nazi but... neffernin Jan 2013 #106

Tbanks And Sorry..... global1 Jan 2013 #119

No biggie neffernin Jan 2013 #164

No. jeff47 Jan 2013 #115

What you are suggesting requires changes in the law by Congress. ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #151

Surprise order 24: everyone gets a kitten! shenmue Jan 2013 #104

This all seems to be about process and mental health Renew Deal Jan 2013 #105

He's objecting to it because OBAMA! RomneyLies Jan 2013 #107

Is he going to send troops to Invade the NRA? blitzburgh55 Jan 2013 #112

My husband says the best way to get the Repukes to agree to ban on weapons earcandle Jan 2013 #120

So how does a private citizen (not a dealer) sell a gun to another private citizen? Bake Jan 2013 #121

That will be up to Congress RomneyLies Jan 2013 #122

Can anyone here explain what Item Number Two means, in concrete terms? truedelphi Jan 2013 #124

Doctor patient confidentiality is already compromised when it comes to mental health. JVS Jan 2013 #135

Thanks for shedding light on this. n/t truedelphi Jan 2013 #163

Excellent! thucythucy Jan 2013 #125

Thanks for posting the list. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2013 #128

An excellent Presidential to-do list! ManiacJoe Jan 2013 #131

I'm not going to applaud executive action eliminating "unnecessary legal barriers" lumberjack_jeff Jan 2013 #132

I agree. Legislation isn't written for no reason. If those barriers were considered necessary enough JVS Jan 2013 #136

OMG I agree with you on something obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #148

Where is BAN GUN SHOWS? That'd be nice. nt valerief Jan 2013 #149

#11 libodem Jan 2013 #160