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Jackpine Radical

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34. Maybe we were already there once, Blanche.
Mon Jan 14, 2013, 04:11 PM
Jan 2013

And I, for one, am ready to go back.

Some writers (e.g. Riane Eisler) have speculated on a great era of Partnership Culture in the past. Here is a summary of her book on the topic:

The Chalice and the Blade

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At a glance:

First Published: 1987
Type of Work: Feminist History
Genres: Nonfiction, Women’s literature, Anthropology
Neolithic art and funerary practices demonstrate that women were the equals of men. Religion celebrated life and nature, with the Goddess (symbolized by the chalice) being the primary figure of worship. Minoan Crete marks the last instance of this social and religious organizational pattern.

Conquering peripheral tribes, such as the Hebrews, introduced a patriarchal, death-centered system (symbolized by the blade) that valued aggression and dominance and denigrated earlier faith in the Goddess. Such views, expressed in the Old Testament as well as in the Gospels, continue to influence the direction of Western culture to the present day.

Suppressed documents such as the APOCRYPHA show that the Goddess was still a strong mythic figure, one that church fathers ultimately succeeded in demoting to a nondeity in the form of the Virgin Mary.

Relative stability and tranquillity have marked the few times that feminine values have since been in the ascendance (such as Elizabethan England). In direct reaction to them came eras of violent aggression, such as World War I, seen here as a patriarchal rejection of the ideals espoused by nineteenth century feminists.


One such culture may have been the great Harappan civilization of pre-Aryan India. Here's a bit on this.
http://www.preservearticles.com/2011091613509/what-were-the-main-features-of-harappan-culture.html
War on climate change? I say Bullshit! [View all] Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 OP
yep, k&r... spanone Jan 2013 #1
It's an ironic metaphor for climate change loyalsister Jan 2013 #2
We may not need a war-like effort, but a lack of effort NoOneMan Jan 2013 #3
I endorse everything you say. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #5
agree with everything you say, but.... Locrian Jan 2013 #15
Im not sure its possible to stop the momentum as well NoOneMan Jan 2013 #18
At one time the US could have led the way but instead was the sandbag stopping it lunasun Jan 2013 #26
We're not so good at these bogus "wars" tularetom Jan 2013 #4
I KNOW we need to do it within my lifetime, but then Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #6
You don't understand. "War on **insert abstract noun here** simply means valerief Jan 2013 #7
Well, that's part of it. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #9
Yes, but only so that even MORE money can be given to rich people. nt valerief Jan 2013 #10
Interesting question-- Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #23
Yeah, like time and space. nt valerief Jan 2013 #32
Great frame. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #40
Exactly, wars never meant to be won, and that even included traditional wars. n/t A Simple Game Jan 2013 #12
Agreed on all counts... 99Forever Jan 2013 #8
But we love our wars. zeemike Jan 2013 #11
We need a WWII mobilization effort worldwide...or its all over. ErikJ Jan 2013 #13
At the rate things are going RoccoR5955 Jan 2013 #25
I agree, we should go the full $5 trillion /yr. ErikJ Jan 2013 #30
nailed it Locrian Jan 2013 #14
I totally get your point. blackspade Jan 2013 #16
Maybe a race against extinction? Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #31
I like that, a "race" rather than a war. blackspade Jan 2013 #35
We just got back from seeing "Chasing Ice" Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #17
Thank You n/t agent46 Jan 2013 #19
Best post ever. freshwest Jan 2013 #20
All these phony "wars." Somebody's getting rich off them. $$$$$$$$$$$ blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #21
We need a "War on War." n/t Beartracks Jan 2013 #28
Sane talk in a crazy world. Scuba Jan 2013 #22
It's only a war if someone finds a way to get rich off it. Initech Jan 2013 #24
What's this Toba near-extinction event? Beartracks Jan 2013 #27
Kicked and recommended for a most profound insight. Uncle Joe Jan 2013 #29
I'm thinking that the high testosterone worship BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #33
Maybe we were already there once, Blanche. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #34
I wonder if that Indian culture you mention is the same that Nichiren Daishonin refers to BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #38
No, the Harappan culture pre-dates the Aryan culture that brought Hinduism Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #41
thanks Pine! I'm gonna have to google the Harappan.. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #43
Declaring war is how the republicans like to go after things. Glassunion Jan 2013 #36
More precisely, getting them to admit that we have problems that don't demand violent solutions. Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #42
he who lives by the sword BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #44
K&R deutsey Jan 2013 #37
I should go back to school... bobclark86 Jan 2013 #39
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