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In reply to the discussion: Purity Culture Is Rape Culture [View all]Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)that I replied while I was still a bit angry. However, when anyone excuses rape with (possible) "lust", that is a rape apologist.
The first time I came face to face with an apologist (woman blamer) was a few weeks ago on facebook. A woman holding a poster which asked, why does her college have courses for women to "avoid rape", instead of courses teaching men how "not to rape". A man suggested that it was "easier" to teach women how to avoid it! I came unglued. In the OP article it describes a woman's life as she lives in a male dominated and sexists society. She was constantly on alert. Doing everything she could to avoid rape. And all this from the time she was a little girl. Even little girls are taught that they must control their looks and behavior to AVOID RAPE! Should it be that way? Should women live in fear that someone will find her so irresistible that she will be assaulted? I don't think so. I vowed to be front and center in the obscene #rapeculture.
The same argument turned up days later. One man on my "friends" list was arguing that women are 'asking for it', and need a protective man. He went on to say that the woman holding the "slutwalk" poster probably had a man to protect her, but then she ran her mouth (his words) and so she got raped. And there was also a Muslim woman in the convo who claims that if Western women acted more like Muslim women, we would be safer. Of course that's a lie. And disgusting. I was able to control myself better; but I un-friended the creep and told off the woman.
After those occasions, we heard about the Indian woman who was murdered because she was not deemed a "respected lady" (as her killers and their lawyer claim to this day). And then Steubenville.
Now you show up on this thread to assert the exact same idea. Somehow, avoiding "lust", a woman can control the actions of men. It's pathetic. We also have the case where a woman was fired because her boss got a woody when he was around her. That is a perfect example of blaming women for a man's thoughts or actions. Women are NOT RESPONSIBLE for the actions of anyone, especially not men who she may or may not know.
Why don't you produce some scientific study to prove that rape is about sex. I grew up in the last years of innocence (even though they call it "free love". In those days men didn't think just because they got hard they had to 'have it'. Most men still have this understanding of their own bodies. They don't have to fire someone, or assault a woman just because his willy is in the right condition. They are those who don't feel it's okay for them to use their body to overpower and assault the body of someone weaker. That makes them criminals and a menace to a sane society. Other men or women who excuse this lapse in sane behavior share some of the guilt for trying to make violence acceptable.
So you wait for your "PROOF" that women are somehow responsible. Meanwhile, stay out of the company of all women. Gods forbid you find yourself with one who is 'asking for it' (by triggering your lust).
eta: I considered changing "willy" to "penis". However, since someone who blames another for their feelings or actions is not behaving as a mature man, "willy" is appropriate.