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Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
8. Could be!
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:23 AM
Jan 2013

Or, given the connection between gun violence and our stupid War on Drugs, maybe more of the shooters were indulging in their merchandise...

Good point, above, re: the deadlier nature of firearms in comparison to knives. Most people don't carry "serious" knives (big difference in deadliness between a little folding pocketknife and a large fighting knife that's halfway to being a shortsword), nor do they know how to fight with a knife. It's a lot easier to learn to shoot well enough to hit a target the size of a person at close range than it is to learn to fight effectively with a knife.

I also suspect most of those "stab" wounds were actually slices. Nasty, and if long and deep enough potentially deadly...but still less chance of damaging a vital organ than a penetration wound. All gunshot wounds are penetration wounds, however...

In any case, I concur that effective methods to reduce access to firearms by those who shouldn't have them are needed. Unfortunately, gun control efforts tend to be made in areas of extremely poor return (for the political capital spent). People are going after the low hanging fruit of "assault weapons" because they believe it to be politically possible...and ignoring the likelihood that any success at this will make efforts to curb the (literally) exponentially greater problem of handguns in the possession of criminals vastly more difficult when the gun lobby says "we've compromised enough."

But I'm drifting off topic...sorry!

you've never been safer! KG Jan 2013 #1
well, in fact, we haven't been safer in the past 40 years or so Recursion Jan 2013 #20
Arguably except for shootings and stabbings. Robb Jan 2013 #23
Well, no, objectively not Recursion Jan 2013 #25
WSJ said the data were collected too differently to make an accurate comparison Robb Jan 2013 #27
Aggravated Assault Recursion Jan 2013 #31
Turns out that was a big, wrong assumption. Robb Jan 2013 #34
Same reason deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan were down. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2013 #2
That graphic also illustrates why the homicide rate in the US is so high... DanTex Jan 2013 #3
That's an intelligent read of the data samsingh Jan 2013 #9
That is completely untrue. Walk away Jan 2013 #32
Um...you just agreed with them. jeff47 Jan 2013 #39
Clearly we need deadlier guns. nt onehandle Jan 2013 #4
+1 Fumesucker Jan 2013 #6
What specific advances in trauma medicine "went live" during those three years? Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #5
Well, it might be a decline in marksmanship, after all, the gun demographic keeps getting older... DanTex Jan 2013 #7
Could be! Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #8
Crimes are still committed mostly by males age 18 - 24 slackmaster Jan 2013 #11
I was joking. I don't really think it's a decline in marksmanship... DanTex Jan 2013 #16
Thanks. It's early out here and I haven't had my coffee yet. slackmaster Jan 2013 #17
Not a great joke, I admit... DanTex Jan 2013 #18
Maryland is famous for it's shock trauma center rightsideout Jan 2013 #10
Had a friend hit by a motorcycle there Robb Jan 2013 #19
Glad to see the improvements in helicopters. Too many lost in crashes ... eppur_se_muova Jan 2013 #24
What a stupid post. Zoeisright Jan 2013 #12
Ut oh... 99Forever Jan 2013 #14
Robb stirred a turd by posting verifiable factual information from a credible source slackmaster Jan 2013 #15
the gun nut will always cherry pick and mangle data Floyd_Gondolli Jan 2013 #29
You're calling Robb a gun nut? slackmaster Jan 2013 #36
Wow, what a great rebuttle ThoughtCriminal Jan 2013 #37
Add me too. Rex Jan 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Jan 2013 #13
Interesting. Stabbings passed shootings in 2008 Recursion Jan 2013 #21
I also had no idea we had so many stabbings. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #22
Weapon used most often in Austin homocides in 2011? Knives. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #30
This tracks the same decrease in deaths in war zones. Good post. Eviscerates NRA talking point #34. morningfog Jan 2013 #26
Thank god for all our wars. SheilaT Jan 2013 #28
Check out this article to see a REALLY strong correlation. s-cubed Jan 2013 #33
I put lead abatement above any other cause, personally (nt) Recursion Jan 2013 #35
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