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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Sat Jan 5, 2013, 03:47 PM Jan 2013

Salon: Welcome to the new Civil War [View all]

Good article

On a repeat viewing of Steven Spielberg’s “Lincoln” over the New Year’s holiday, a scene I had barely noticed the first time jumped out at me. Confederate vice-president Alexander Stephens (played with reptilian gentility by Jackie Earle Haley), in a secret meeting aboard a steamboat with Abraham Lincoln and Secretary of State William Seward, faces up to the reality that the era of slavery has come to an end. Ratification of the 13th Amendment, Stephens muses, will destroy the basis of the Southern economy and the South’s traditional way of life. “We won’t know ourselves anymore,” he says.

If only it had been so. What an affluent slaveowner like Stephens feared most, no doubt, was the utopian vision of “radical Reconstruction” imagined by legendary abolitionist Thaddeus Stevens (Tommy Lee Jones in the movie), in an earlier conversation with Lincoln in the White House kitchen. Stevens envisioned a future in which all the land and property of the Southern aristocracy would be dispossessed and divided among the emancipated slaves, building a new society of free soil and free labor amid the ruins of tyranny. To put it in contemporary social-studies terms, Stevens hoped that by uprooting and destroying the South’s slave economy, one could also replace its culture.

It didn’t quite work out that way. You can’t boil one of the most tumultuous periods of American history down to one paragraph, but here goes: Lincoln was assassinated by a domestic terrorist and replaced by Andrew Johnson, who was an incompetent hothead and an unapologetic racist. Within a few years the ambitious project of Reconstruction fell victim to a sustained insurgency led by the Ku Klux Klan and similar white militia groups. By the late 1870s white supremacist “Redeemers” controlled most local and state governments in the South, and by the 1890s Southern blacks had been disenfranchised and thrust into subservience positions by Jim Crow laws that were only slightly preferable to slavery.


So even though it’s a truism of American public discourse that the Civil War never ended, it’s also literally true. We’re still reaping the whirlwind from that long-ago conflict, and now we face a new Civil War, one focused on divisive political issues of the 21st century – most notably the rights and liberties of women and LGBT people – but rooted in toxic rhetoric and ideas inherited from the 19th century.


http://www.salon.com/2013/01/05/welcome_to_the_new_civil_war/

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Salon: Welcome to the new Civil War [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 OP
and its retched spawn - the GOP's "Southern Strategy" jpak Jan 2013 #1
Which Southern Strategy began as a response to the Democratic convention of 1948 in which patrice Jan 2013 #4
Don't you mean 1948? BuelahWitch Jan 2013 #12
Thanks for the catch! Yeah, will edit. nt patrice Jan 2013 #32
Wow.. patrice! ReRe Jan 2013 #14
Thank you! I should try harder to get the dates right. Doing stuff on the fly usually. patrice Jan 2013 #33
Strom Thurmond and the Dixiecrats trof Jan 2013 #26
Don't forget the accelerating affects of the 1964 Civil Rights Act amandabeech Jan 2013 #38
Looks like the 'Southern Strategy' bit the GOP in the Ass. formercia Jan 2013 #2
Gee, how long have I compared the present dysfunction to the 1850s nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #3
Yes, you have predicted a civil war now for at least 6 years zappaman Jan 2013 #7
That wasn't very nice, zappaman... ReRe Jan 2013 #16
I get the feeling Nadin that this article is more focused on the post Civil War era, alas. riderinthestorm Jan 2013 #9
And I get the distinct feeling that there are some of this board who would side CTyankee Jan 2013 #11
I do, i do. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #13
More than most of us would even imagine, I think. TahitiNut Jan 2013 #17
I hope not. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2013 #15
In the movie, Lincoln makes a distinction about treason: dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #18
I could see that, in the interest of holding together the Union after the Civil War. CTyankee Jan 2013 #20
The South got treated more like Germany after WWI than West Germany after WWII Fumesucker Jan 2013 #25
It must have been very short lived because the South managed to make African CTyankee Jan 2013 #28
Explaining something is not the same as defending it Fumesucker Jan 2013 #29
Thanks and good explanation. WWI was a horror show from beginning to end. CTyankee Jan 2013 #31
me too riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #27
We should KICK unreconstructed neo-Confederates out of the country meow2u3 Jan 2013 #5
it's an unbroken line ZRT2209 Jan 2013 #6
Another of the main drivers of African Americans' northward migration was tblue37 Jan 2013 #21
It might seem like a war, but the "neoconfederacy" is losing. TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #8
The neoconfederacy has not lost yet they still have to rise up with arms stultusporcos Jan 2013 #10
Not anywhere near dead yet, but on every front, they are losing ground TwilightGardener Jan 2013 #30
They are quickly become trapped and corned animals and that is when they will become stultusporcos Jan 2013 #37
You know, there was more than one type of slavery going on at that time. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #19
That cannot POSSIBLY compare to Zoeisright Jan 2013 #22
Actually, I understand how people can be "owned" in many ways. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2013 #23
But those up North was owned. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #24
This is a nit-pick though, amandabeech Jan 2013 #39
Your right. Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2013 #40
Slavery may have been abolished, moondust Jan 2013 #34
What my granny told me re Brown vs Board of Education: trof Jan 2013 #35
"(I never wondered where HE went to school.)" Fumesucker Jan 2013 #36
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