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13. It's generally not psychosis that does it. More likely a personality disorder.

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 11:37 PM

Jan 2013

Jail is full of them. Anti-social, etc. People who lack empathy, enjoy others' pain, reject society's rules.

Psychosis, like paranoia or false beliefs that one may be receiving special messages, can lead to this behavior as well.

Seems like the Conn Killer had a neither, however.

Bottom line, it would be impossible to create a diagnostic profile that could be applied for gun applicants. You can certainly guess who may be at higher risk, but it would be very subjective and unenforceable.

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So if mental illness is the cause of gun violence, [View all] mykpart Jan 2013 OP

The answer is ... GeorgeGist Jan 2013 #1

That is the standard NRA answer. liberal N proud Jan 2013 #2

Really? Another respected DU poster said "yet the NRA are utterly silent." Please see #19. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #29

Utterly SILENT? liberal N proud Jan 2013 #34

Interesting, do you have a link to a "mental health screen" that experts agree is a credible jody Jan 2013 #3

The NRA must believe that all of them are credible Care Acutely Jan 2013 #6

Include Mayor Thomas M. Menino of Boston and Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York City, cochairmen jody Jan 2013 #8

right after we start a national gun database... spanone Jan 2013 #10

We already have NICS. What additional data do you propose be added to it? nt jody Jan 2013 #11

What would that do other than waste money? Undismayed Jan 2013 #44

Is it going to take an increase in suicide rates to convince people this is a bad idea? loyalsister Jan 2013 #31

loyalsister agree 100%. Too much hysteria and little intelligent thought given toward preventing jody Jan 2013 #36

Can't speak for the NRA, but... Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #4

Agree people who commit traditional-murder are different from mass-murderers. I oppose grouping all jody Jan 2013 #5

I concur. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #7

Such as? Denninmi Jan 2013 #9

Not my field. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #12

It's generally not psychosis that does it. More likely a personality disorder. Last Stand Jan 2013 #13

Thank you for the information. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #15

Precisely, and the NRA members might be surprised how many among them JDPriestly Jan 2013 #33

Does "willing to reject society's rule" includes those who want to ban all firearms when society's jody Jan 2013 #37

Who says mental illness is the cause of gun violence? LaPierre? nt Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #14

Michael Moore, for one. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #26

Interesting. But did you know one thing the boys did that one of their moms mentioned? Honeycombe8 Jan 2013 #41

LaPierre believes it is mental illness. mykpart Jan 2013 #16

No idea, but it is not by any means the sole cause Hekate Jan 2013 #17

Evil is not in DSM-IV Recursion Jan 2013 #24

If owning a gun makes you safe, B Calm Jan 2013 #18

If banning gun ownership makes people safe, why isn't Chicago the safest city in the nation? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #28

Because Chicago residents don't B Calm Jan 2013 #43

Do criminals care whether they buy something legally or illegally? Undismayed Jan 2013 #45

Back to my original post, B Calm Jan 2013 #46

U.S. gun deaths since Dec. 14 Newtown shooting: 409 Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #19

Those must have been "traditional murder." Iggo Jan 2013 #32

Then wouldn't tama Jan 2013 #20

More homocides are committed by hammers and clubs than guns BTW undergroundpanther Jan 2013 #21

Rifles, not "guns" in general Recursion Jan 2013 #23

Total murders: 12k, total firearm murders, 8k. 8k is more than half of 12k gollygee Jan 2013 #35

Didn't major in math, did you? Zoeisright Jan 2013 #38

Well, just as a factual point, yes, the NRA does support that Recursion Jan 2013 #22

it's the drugs not the guns or the teenagers mental state green for victory Jan 2013 #25

Michael Moore also thinks that pharmaceuticals are a factor. Please see #26. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #27

Before putting guns in schools let us get the mental health issue handled Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #30

I wouldn't subject anyone to treatment based on diagnosic recommendations by the NRA HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #39

I agree it would not be the NRA suggestion or control, before money is spent Thinkingabout Jan 2013 #40

Considering that over 400 Americans have died from gun violence since Sandy Hook Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #42