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Robb

(39,665 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2012, 01:36 PM Jan 2012

Oh, good. DU likes unions again. Let's talk about solidarity. [View all]

It's nice to see support for Trumka swinging around again. But I'm here to tell you, if you're a liberal, it shouldn't swing.

It's dishonest to trot labor out when it suits your agenda. Some of us stand with labor no matter what. Because solidarity means solidarity. Not solidarity when I feel like it, or unless I think I know better. You either support the union movement, or you don't.

I stood with labor when Trumka was on the warpath last summer, and I stood with labor when Trumka joined the chorus to support the president on job creation.

I stand with them now. And I challenge all DU members who claim to support unions to do the same.

I stand with labor. I say again what I said in August last year:

If the AFL-CIO does not endorse Obama in 2012, I will withdraw my support.

If they endorse him, I will stand with labor and work for his reelection.


That's what solidarity means.

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A few Google caches, since DU2's on the blink: Robb Jan 2012 #1
I appreciate the list of endorsements from union leaders, but as an educator yurbud Jan 2012 #2
Are you a member of your union? Robb Jan 2012 #4
The majority of DU thinks "Solidarity!" means "support MY union so I can make my Toyota payment." Romulox Jan 2012 #3
That's another great point. Robb Jan 2012 #8
I chuckled, but really, it is frustrating. Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #21
Blue-collar unions - blue-collar workers of ALL sorts, really - get no respect here. Codeine Jan 2012 #22
As long as the CtW coalition agrees zipplewrath Jan 2012 #5
Fair enough. Robb Jan 2012 #9
LOL! It won't last long Gman Jan 2012 #6
We always have - minus a few trolls FreakinDJ Jan 2012 #7
That's not true pintobean Jan 2012 #11
What do you mean 'again'? I'm Union since I started working. Who are these fair Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #10
how does "withdraw my support" = solidarity lol You are standing w/Obama not your union then nt msongs Jan 2012 #12
withdraw support of Obama pintobean Jan 2012 #13
A thousand recs. No, ten thousand. No, a hundred million Zalatix Jan 2012 #14
I stand with Labor, I will never stand with the TSA. Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #15
OK, you lost me. Robb Jan 2012 #16
TSA is union. Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #18
I'll put you down as "I stand with labor, except when I think I know better," then. Robb Jan 2012 #20
I put you down as, "its only a little fascist so... Arctic Dave Jan 2012 #25
Any other unions you don't approve of? Robb Jan 2012 #27
So when Maricopa Co Police Union endorses Arpaio JonLP24 Jan 2012 #32
NAPO and IUPA are both AFL-CIO affiliates. Robb Jan 2012 #33
This thread JonLP24 Jan 2012 #34
TSA employees recently voted to join AFGE. Robb Jan 2012 #36
All I was asking JonLP24 Jan 2012 #38
so solidarity means that I obediently follow Trumpka hfojvt Jan 2012 #17
fuck unions when they riot against hippies. provis99 Jan 2012 #19
I'm in AFT, an AFL-CIO affiliate. Starry Messenger Jan 2012 #23
Robb, I'm an officer in my union... mike_c Jan 2012 #24
Not a union member myself - TBF Jan 2012 #26
just back from a afscme union conference.... madrchsod Jan 2012 #28
I support unions because they support the issues that I do. mzmolly Jan 2012 #29
AFSCME Endorses President Obama for Reelection Omaha Steve Jan 2012 #30
I support unions bigtree Jan 2012 #31
Our own unions do not demand our political "obediance" bread_and_roses Jan 2012 #35
Actually, they have. And will again. Robb Jan 2012 #37
To exhort is not to demand bread_and_roses Jan 2012 #42
You said ask. They asked. Robb Jan 2012 #45
Like all loyalty oaths, this one is deeply stupid jpgray Jan 2012 #39
Solidarity is a wise principle. Still, there are corrupt unions just like there is corruption Zalatix Jan 2012 #40
"deeply stupid" is putting it mildly fascisthunter Jan 2012 #41
If unions do those things, they aren't unions. Robb Jan 2012 #43
No "true" union, right? jpgray Jan 2012 #44
You're describing a hypothetical. Paving the way to stand against labor. Robb Jan 2012 #47
That person is not describing a hypothetical, the Screen Actors Guild supported SOPA stevenleser Jan 2012 #50
Two posts up he is, Steven. Robb Jan 2012 #51
The big unions and I will be supporting the same guy in 2012 jpgray Jan 2012 #52
the AFL-CIO was always going to endorse Obama in 2012 WI_DEM Jan 2012 #46
Well said YoungDemCA Jan 2012 #48
I stand with Unions _ed_ Jan 2012 #49
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