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15. politics is the art of the possible
Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:46 AM
Jan 2013

I think the president displayed better brinksmanship than he has earlier, and played harder ball if not hardest possible ball with the opposition.

Any time we start out negotiations with John Boehner telling Harry Reid to go fuck himself, as was reported, you can be pretty sure there was some pressure being applied to the GOP.

That said, this was a result that involved two sides; we can only hold the president accountable for one of those two sides. Considering the intransigent unreasonable and unrealistic nature of the GOP, he had to come to a meeting of the minds with a side that is arguably demented and that hates his guts, intending to make this as difficult as possible out of sheer bloodymindedness, combined with a certain very real desperation on the part of the right.

I think the most interesting hard core negotiations are still ahead. I suspect that if we were privy to all of this, Obama played it pretty shrewdly, and that this is as close to what winning could be (at the risk of sounding like Charlie Sheen) as it is possible to achieve right now.

I'm glad that milk won't be reaching $8 a gallon, or that those on unemployment who would be the most hard hit are not being thrown to the wolves, so to speak.

If we take the long view, I think this places the GOP in a bad place for further factionalism and self-destruction, as well as a good place for the Dems for 2014 and 2016.

Is it perfect? Far from it. Can we live with it? For now. Taking the long view, it's better positioning than where the left and center have been before now.

The Bill doesn't make all this lard permanent, does it? leveymg Jan 2013 #1
I am sick to death DiverDave Jan 2013 #2
I am sick to death also . . . brush Jan 2013 #4
blah blah blah DiverDave Jan 2013 #18
I don't have to look in the mirror brush Jan 2013 #19
politics is the art of the possible Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #15
More pork for the pigs SHRED Jan 2013 #3
The article leaves out things that are good about the bill. OKNancy Jan 2013 #5
I suppose an article that deals with HUGE CORPORATE HANDOUTS IN THE BILL MNBrewer Jan 2013 #7
What it tells me is that we have a class of rich people who gtar100 Jan 2013 #6
I'm so tired of the excuses, whether it's Obama or the rest of our PAID government officials... mother earth Jan 2013 #8
Loopfuckingholes should be the next fight. lonestarnot Jan 2013 #9
And the TN senators want to cut a Trillion out of Social Security fasttense Jan 2013 #10
Remember how closing loopholes and pork was a priority for the candidates a few months ago? progressoid Jan 2013 #11
our problems are broad and deep Agony Jan 2013 #12
"Bonus Depreciation, R&D Tax Credit – These are well-known corporate boondoggles." ProSense Jan 2013 #13
Well...what do you expect? We vote for the lesser evil in every election. davidn3600 Jan 2013 #14
I haven't read the whole thing myself - yet - but I appreciate you posting this article; thanks! Dog Gone at Penigma Jan 2013 #16
I have no hope. I see no future. n/t Hotler Jan 2013 #17
If it's true, what I don't understand is 'why' did all those teaRoarists in the House vote Nay?? Amonester Jan 2013 #20
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