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SHRED

(28,136 posts) Sun Dec 30, 2012, 11:47 AM Dec 2012

When my conservative friends are losing a political discussion [View all]

Here are the two "go to" responses from them:

1. "I am an 'independent' voter."
The more emphasis that is put on this claim the more I know they are further to the Right Wing.

2. "Both sides are messed up."
The old 'false equivalency' tactic which used to try and throw off the conversation. This is used more times than not in a fit of exasperation when really falling behind in the discussion. A last ditch attempt.

So predictable.
And so common.

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When my conservative friends are losing a political discussion [View all] SHRED Dec 2012 OP

M$M is doing number 2 to no end, they loose all credibility uponit7771 Dec 2012 #1

"Number 2" is a perfect descriptor for what they do. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #2

LOL SunSeeker Dec 2012 #24

When they claim to be "independent" voters... Orrex Dec 2012 #3

Yes, my "independent voter" friends always vote Republican. Interesting! SharonAnn Dec 2012 #17

I used to work with a guy like that NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #18

Don't give independents a bad name just because the ones who talk to you are republican. iiibbb Dec 2012 #28

To be fair, *ALL* of the independents that I have talked to are Republican Orrex Dec 2012 #29

"Who did you vote for in the last four national elections, house, senate, and president?" Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #4

i've called lot's of people on the both sides do it drivel samsingh Dec 2012 #5

Or they'll say something totally irrelevant like... QED Dec 2012 #6

You are about where I am. I don't talk to anyone that yells about illegals or bluestate10 Dec 2012 #44

Mostly they flail around and go down a ditto list Warpy Dec 2012 #7

Big time. They try to sound smart but you can tell they're very unread and ignorant Populist_Prole Dec 2012 #27

I met a man who insisted that the government could read our minds. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #45

Conservatives were the kids who cheated in high school Tsiyu Dec 2012 #8

"For all their claims to be such rugged individualists" bluestate10 Dec 2012 #46

Mine resort to namecalling Glitterati Dec 2012 #9

Yes, namecalling is the sign they've lost the argument. nt SunSeeker Dec 2012 #25

Can you tell me what a "conservative friend" is....? Bigmack Dec 2012 #10

Gah! I hated the "it's the extreme from both parties" canard. progressoid Dec 2012 #11

One not-too-crazy conservative I work with points to Obama's DirkGently Dec 2012 #12

#2 is used way too often by today's media Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2012 #13

"I vote for the person, not the party." mac56 Dec 2012 #14

The wrongsiders are fond of false equivalency and backlash projection. ananda Dec 2012 #15

When Third Way "liberals" are losing a political discussion on a message board OnyxCollie Dec 2012 #16

I would like to know what people think "Third" refers to, please and thanks. nt patrice Dec 2012 #31

Your post is misguided. nt bluestate10 Dec 2012 #47

Lots of people,on both sides, do #1. beyurslf Dec 2012 #19

Another one I heard a lot this election cycle EileenFB Dec 2012 #20

"I'm really more of a Libertarian." vanlassie Dec 2012 #21

I like to hear that one, because it's an excuse to talk about freedom & how it differs from LiberTea patrice Dec 2012 #33

Don't forget: sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #22

"so common" that that's also what we hear from emo progs, which fact I'd be willing to live patrice Dec 2012 #23

Good question. nt SunSeeker Dec 2012 #30

that's an opportunity Enrique Dec 2012 #26

Bingo! "irreconncilable" The oppressor wants us to think there 2 and only 2 things possible & anyone patrice Dec 2012 #32

What I always seem to get is "wellll... I don't know... " calimary Dec 2012 #34

nice! SHRED Dec 2012 #49

After 20 seconds: "Oh, I don't really know that much." Festivito Dec 2012 #35

As much as Ben Afleck & Matt Damon want to pretend otherwise: there ARE BAD PEOPLE in the world. patrice Dec 2012 #36

A little memorizing the Pentagon report and no one could say: Festivito Dec 2012 #37

TIME is a crucial factor in all of this. How do we preserve as much value as we can patrice Dec 2012 #38

Our understanding, wants, desires, ... are limited by time. Festivito Dec 2012 #39

I honestly do think that's possible. That's why some of what we're seeing is so frustrating. patrice Dec 2012 #40

We have made major voting mistakes as a country. Festivito Dec 2012 #42

Happy New Year, Festivito! patrice Dec 2012 #43

Happy New Year back at you, Patrice. Festivito Dec 2012 #48

i said this before , i see this shit all the time , go online to non political forums JI7 Dec 2012 #41