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Bohunk68

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38. The facts, as you have recounted

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 12:43 PM

Dec 2012

them are correct. The biggest factor was probably that early Christianity was in a struggle with Mithraism, whose biggest celebration was on the 25th, not the solstice. It had to do with the birth of Mithra. Constantine was heavily influenced by his mother, Helena, who was a Christian. Many of his subsequent actions were done at her bequest. She was responsible for the Church of the Nativity in Palestine/Israel and the subsequent establishment of retreats in Sinai. Interesting woman. It is also quite true that the Puritans regarded the celebration as a pagan holiday. The Mormons regard April 6th as the probable date of birth. They are not far off, I would imagine. Having raised sheep, that would seem more logical to me.

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THE TRUTH ABOUT "CHRISTMAS": The season was CO-OPTED by the Christians. Let me explain: [View all] RBInMaine Dec 2012 OP

Yes, this is what I have found out to be true also. Happy Solstice everyone! byeya Dec 2012 #1

I am not a Christian, but i find your post offensive, especially on Christmas Eve. nt darkangel218 Dec 2012 #2

No, this is the PERFECT time. I am offended by you being offended by the TRUTH. RBInMaine Dec 2012 #5

Why? Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #6

You're not a Christian, but you find the OP's post offensive? Why? nt. OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #7

Because this is the time to be happy and celebrate with our loved ones darkangel218 Dec 2012 #19

some of us are able to do both Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #25

If it should be about accepting one another, why are so many religious people not accepting of Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #26

The OP is just basic world history about the ebb and flow of various cultures and religions... OldDem2012 Dec 2012 #31

that was the point! treestar Dec 2012 #36

if that was meant to be ironic and funny KurtNYC Dec 2012 #11

... SammyWinstonJack Dec 2012 #14

I did soften a bit of the language, but as Dickens wrote, TRUTH LIVES. This post is a GIFT to those RBInMaine Dec 2012 #15

You could've held posting that "truth" at least few days after Christmas. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #20

The only one making this divisive seems to be you. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #22

We have dealt with enough lately, why not just celebrate, darkangel218 Dec 2012 #23

You have a mouse in your pocket? Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #27

Whatever, carry on. darkangel218 Dec 2012 #29

I never said I wasn't a Christian. Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #35

You should direct your anger to the Christians that are ready to fight over this at the drop of a dbackjon Dec 2012 #39

So far i havent met any who got upset when i wished them Happy Holidays. nt darkangel218 Dec 2012 #40

Yes, the truth is quite offensive. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #21

Today is not about " this was my holiday, you stole it from me " darkangel218 Dec 2012 #24

So when the religious draw a line in the sand like Prop 8....they say 'you are not like us, we are Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #28

You realize, don't you, that truth like that Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #3

You mean like the CHRISTIAN Spanish Inquisition? Or the CHRISTIAN Crusades? RBInMaine Dec 2012 #17

Okay. HappyMe Dec 2012 #4

I believe you are wrong. I'm pretty sure the ancients enjoyed the strong aluminum pole and.. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #8

If Christmas was about trees you'd be right. It's not. rug Dec 2012 #9

You don't get it. The SEASON is about an ARRAY of traditions CO-OPTED by "Christmas." Trees are RBInMaine Dec 2012 #12

I do get it. It's a significant religious holiday that's been adapted around the world. rug Dec 2012 #18

Festivus... orwell Dec 2012 #10

And Santa is Odin! Bonobo Dec 2012 #13

I know someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas because it's too pagan. Brickbat Dec 2012 #16

Only when trying to fight bullying with more bullying. Festivito Dec 2012 #30

Now the Easter Bunny is definately Christian. I draw the line at the Easter Bunny! byeya Dec 2012 #32

All those "offended" are hilarious! JNelson6563 Dec 2012 #33

You appear to mistake the conscious decision of co-opting a thing LanternWaste Dec 2012 #34

The Romans made conscious decisions to co-opt other religions ALL THE TIME truebluegreen Dec 2012 #37

The facts, as you have recounted Bohunk68 Dec 2012 #38

They repurposed it. Igel Dec 2012 #41

Locking. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #42