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pacalo

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9. This was a masterful rebuttal to LaPierre's half-baked "remedy"!
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 03:07 AM
Dec 2012

First, there is no way in hell those who support the NRA -- of which Grover Norquist is a board member -- would support a huge tax increase to pay the $6 billion required to put a police officer on every school ground.

Secondly, the police officer at Columbine could not prevent or stop the mass murders from happening there. Also, the bystander in the Arizona parking lot, an experienced gun owner, could not stop the gunman from shooting Gabby Giffords & those who went to see her because he could not get a clean shot, from fear of hitting someone else.

Third, these mass murders happen at other places* other than schools -- like in the Arizona parking lot & at the Colorado movie theater. LaPierre's police officer at every school as "the remedy" is just ridiculous.

*A Timeline of Mass Shootings in the U.S. Since Columbine:

December 11, 2012. On Tuesday, 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself with a stolen rifle in Clackamas Town Center, Oregon. His motive is unknown.

September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death by 36-year-old Andrew Engeldinger at Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN. Three others were wounded. Engeldinger went on a rampage after losing his job, ultimately killing himself.

August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed when 40-year-old US Army veteran Wade Michael Page opened fire in a gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Four others were injured, and Page killed himself.

July 20, 2012. During the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, 24-year-old James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58. Holmes was arrested outside the theater.

May 29, 2012. Ian Stawicki opened fire on Cafe Racer Espresso in Seattle, WA, killing 5 and himself after a citywide manhunt.

April 6, 2012. Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32, shot 5 black men in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in racially motivated shooting spree. Three died.

April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, CA. The shooting was the sixth-deadliest school massacre in the US and the deadliest attack on a school since the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.

February 27, 2012. Three students were killed by Thomas “TJ” Lane, another student, in a rampage at Chardon High School in Chardon, OH. Three others were injured.

October 14, 2011. Eight people died in a shooting at Salon Meritage hair salon in Seal Beach, CA. The gunman, 41-year-old Scott Evans Dekraai, killed six women and two men dead, while just one woman survived. It was Orange County’s deadliest mass killing.

September 6, 2011. Eduardo Sencion, 32, entered an IHOP restaurant in Carson City, NV and shot 12 people. Five died, including three National Guard members.

January 8, 2011. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) was shot in the head when 22-year-old Jared Loughner opened fire on an event she was holding at a Safeway market in Tucson, AZ. Six people died, including Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll, one of Giffords’ staffers, and a 9-year-old girl. 19 total were shot. Loughner has been sentenced to seven life terms plus 140 years, without parole.

August 3, 2010. Omar S. Thornton, 34, gunned down Hartford Beer Distributor in Manchester, CT after getting caught stealing beer. Nine were killed, including Thornton, and two were injured.

November 5, 2009. Forty-three people were shot by Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan at the Fort Hood army base in Texas. Hasan reportedly yelled “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire, killing 13 and wounding 29 others.

April 3, 2009. Jiverly Wong, 41, opened fire at an immigration center in Binghamton, New York before committing suicide. He killed 13 people and wounded 4.

March 29, 2009. Eight people died in a shooting at the Pinelake Health and Rehab nursing home in Carthage, NC. The gunman, 45-year-old Robert Stewart, was targeting his estranged wife who worked at the home and survived. Stewart was sentenced to life in prison.

February 14, 2008. Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University, killing 6 and wounding 21. The gunman shot and killed himself before police arrived. It was the fifth-deadliest university shooting in US history.

February 7, 2008. Six people died and two were injured in a shooting spree at the City Hall in Kirkwood, Missouri. The gunman, Charles Lee Thornton, opened fire during a public meeting after being denied construction contracts he believed he deserved. Thornton was killed by police.

December 5, 2007. A 19-year-old boy, Robert Hawkins, shot up a department store in the Westroads Mall in Omaha, NE. Hawkins killed 9 people and wounded 4 before killing himself. The semi-automatic rifle he used was stolen from his stepfather’s house.

April 16, 2007. Virginia Tech became the site of the deadliest school shooting in US history when a student, Seung-Hui Choi, gunned down 56 people. Thirty-two people died in the massacre.

February 12, 2007. In Salt Lake City’s Trolley Square Mall, 5 people were shot to death and 4 others were wounded by 18-year-old gunman Sulejman Talović. One of the victims was a 16-year-old boy.

October 2, 2006. An Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster, PA was gunned down by 32-year-old Charles Carl Roberts, Roberts separated the boys from the girls, binding and shooting the girls. 5 young girls died, while 6 were injured. Roberts committed suicide afterward.

March 25, 2006. Seven died and 2 were injured by 28-year-old Kyle Aaron Huff in a shooting spree through Capitol Hill in Seattle, WA. The massacre was the worst killing in Seattle since 1983.

March 21, 2005. Teenager Jeffrey Weise killed his grandfather and his grandfather’s girlfriend before opening fire on Red Lake Senior High School, killing 9 people on campus and injuring 5. Weise killed himself.

March 12, 2005. A Living Church of God meeting was gunned down by 44-year-old church member Terry Michael Ratzmann at a Sheraton hotel in Brookfield, WI. Ratzmann was thought to have had religious motivations, and killed himself after executing the pastor, the pastor’s 16-year-old son, and 7 others. Four were wounded.

July 8, 2003. Doug Williams, a Lockheed Martin employee, shot up his plant in Meridian, MS in a racially-motivated rampage. He shot 14 people, most of them African American, and killed 7 before killing himself.

December 26, 2000. Edgewater Technology employee Michael “Mucko” McDermott shot and killed seven of his coworkers at the office in Wakefield, MA. McDermott claimed he had “traveled back in time and killed Hitler and the last 6 Nazis.” He was sentenced to 7 consecutive life sentences.

September 15, 1999. Larry Gene Ashbrook opened fire on a Christian rock concert and teen prayer rally at Wedgewood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, TX. He killed 7 people and wounded 7 others, almost all teenagers. Ashbrook committed suicide.

July 29, 1999. Mark Orrin Barton, 44, murdered his wife and two children with a hammer before shooting up two Atlanta day trading firms. Barton, a day trader, was believed to be motivated by huge monetary losses. He killed 12 including his family and injured 13 before killing himself.

April 20, 1999. In the deadliest high school shooting in US history, teenagers Eric Harris and Dylan Kiebold shot up Columbine High School in Littleton, CO. They killed 13 people and wounded 21 others. They killed themselves after the massacre.

Thanks, Willy T. I watched, but it was good to see it again. madfloridian Dec 2012 #1
Me Too... Seems Like He's Had Enough... WillyT Dec 2012 #6
The lobbyist for mass murderers who makes sure they get their tools... freshwest Dec 2012 #66
Wow, ths is a must watch!!!! Logical Dec 2012 #2
Bump, we need people to see this! Logical Dec 2012 #24
I love his rants cilla4progress Dec 2012 #3
Me too! mimi85 Dec 2012 #52
Why do I click on Joe Walsh interviews? smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #55
Joe Walsh and many other GOP scoundrels remind me of this line by Shakespeare: freshwest Dec 2012 #61
LOL! smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #71
Shakespeare wrote the best cilla4progress Dec 2012 #74
He sure did! I've memorized most of the comedies over time. freshwest Dec 2012 #75
Good work, Lawrence ODonnell! & Does LaPierre's "solution" for our schools sound like Red Dawn? patrice Dec 2012 #4
Thanks, just walked in from covering a story nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #5
Lawrence has always been anti gun, and I have always been pro Lawrence. Loudly Dec 2012 #7
That characterization of LaPierre struck me, too. Mc Mike Dec 2012 #22
Yeah that got my attention. Volaris Dec 2012 #39
Thanks for the tip. Saw her seg with Chris Hayes on Boehner and the LaPierre seg from Friday, too. Mc Mike Dec 2012 #73
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #45
"butt buddy" Ted Nugent??? I'm no fan of Ted Nugent, but "but buddy" is homophobic... NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #47
Yep. n/t littlemissmartypants Dec 2012 #48
thank you mr o'donnell spanone Dec 2012 #8
This was a masterful rebuttal to LaPierre's half-baked "remedy"! pacalo Dec 2012 #9
+1! uponit7771 Dec 2012 #10
+1000 Fridays Child Dec 2012 #17
K&R Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #11
Policemen in every school....OK......Paid for by the GUN NUTS! ghost_in_the_machine Dec 2012 #12
Nope - they'll be paid for by laying off more teachers NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #51
Considering how often cops end up brutalizing citizens, sometimes even kids, nowadays, tblue37 Dec 2012 #54
I Watched This Twice And Cheered And Wept Like A Baby HangOnKids Dec 2012 #13
no words hopemountain Dec 2012 #14
Thank you for sharing that. Care Acutely Dec 2012 #15
Epic! Must see TV! Demo_Chris Dec 2012 #16
Great rant malaise Dec 2012 #18
That was amazing! Le Taz Hot Dec 2012 #19
A mind "almost as twisted, almost as damaged as the minds of the mass murderers..." Surya Gayatri Dec 2012 #20
I am glad he said it... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #26
Don't know. But watching LaPierre I get the sense that he is going to go geckosfeet Dec 2012 #29
Thank you madokie Dec 2012 #21
Boom! hatrack Dec 2012 #23
I did hear that... louis-t Dec 2012 #27
k & r! nt wildbilln864 Dec 2012 #25
Thanks for posting. LaPierre and the NRA aka "desperate cornered rat(s)" geckosfeet Dec 2012 #28
And whoever called the NRA a "protection racket" sure nailed it. calimary Dec 2012 #62
Wow libodem Dec 2012 #30
Dripping with sarcasm and cold fury ailsagirl Dec 2012 #31
K and R...a truly great segment...everyone should see this...keep it..send it on....nt Stuart G Dec 2012 #32
Lawrence ON FIRE, expressing rage that most of us feel and cannot put into words. CarmanK Dec 2012 #33
enough heaven05 Dec 2012 #34
Scum blames everyone but himself! Utopian Leftist Dec 2012 #35
Yep, He was smokin' hot pissed. xxqqqzme Dec 2012 #36
k&r rhett o rick Dec 2012 #37
He gives me a tingle up my thigh... OneGrassRoot Dec 2012 #38
Not only is Wayne a despicable human being, he's also a coward to boot. neverforget Dec 2012 #40
K & R Paper Roses Dec 2012 #41
He out Olbermanned Olberman! HereSince1628 Dec 2012 #42
Does WL forget that well armed secret service were surrounding Reagan & Brady when they were shot? judesedit Dec 2012 #43
LaPierre should be the first registree in the Mental Health Database Doctor_J Dec 2012 #44
LaPierre is a psychopath secondvariety Dec 2012 #46
Thanks O'Donnell - you put it all to words. toby jo Dec 2012 #49
K&R Heathen57 Dec 2012 #50
Way recommended. H2O Man Dec 2012 #53
Lawrence has been very good lately!!!!! Little Star Dec 2012 #56
Made it a point Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2012 #57
Add GHWB to those who found LaPierre and the NRA too extreme Markus Che Dec 2012 #58
Wow!! Carly Dec 2012 #59
The beginning of the end of NRA's stranglehold. Kurovski Dec 2012 #60
Wonderfully Powerful. Thanks for posting. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #63
If that were a spanking zeemike Dec 2012 #64
Evisceration completed. Now all that is left to do is to Marie Marie Dec 2012 #65
Damn...Good. nt flying rabbit Dec 2012 #67
K&R. Wow. Whovian Dec 2012 #68
Wow. applegrove Dec 2012 #69
with an angry KICK defacto7 Dec 2012 #70
K&R SalviaBlue Dec 2012 #72
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