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In reply to the discussion: Defeat from the jaws of victory? The SS cuts (chained cpi) will mean a Democratic bloodbath in 14. [View all]OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)74. Are you that paranoid? nt.
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Defeat from the jaws of victory? The SS cuts (chained cpi) will mean a Democratic bloodbath in 14. [View all]
silvershadow
Dec 2012
OP
a betrayal is highly believable but better wait til signatures appear after votes are taken nt
msongs
Dec 2012
#1
why, when talking it up might change something? better than sitting like quiet little mouses
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#2
Exactly why I posted. I *WANT the p.t..b. to take notice now. We have had just about enough of
silvershadow
Dec 2012
#4
You mean the bullshit also published in the NYT, WSJ, WAPO, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, NPR, etc?
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#5
What other sources are they citing besides each other and the original AP source? nt.
OldDem2012
Dec 2012
#25
why don't you go read them? the first one i saw was by paul krugman, & he didn't hear about it
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#28
WE DO NOT LOATHE THIS PRESIDENT!! And, we do not always have to agree with the man either!!
DearHeart
Dec 2012
#68
Don't assume that I don't understand what the President is doing! I'm not stupid and I have been
DearHeart
Dec 2012
#72
Pelosi and Carney have referred to it. "Less generous COLA" "Strengthens Social Security"
djean111
Dec 2012
#76
I'm not "whining"...I am very forcefully stating to the party that this thing is a ridiculous
silvershadow
Dec 2012
#9
they get richer because folks like you continue to make excuses every time democrats sell out
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#10
The BlueDogs were the principal victims in 2010. Progressive Dems did just fine in 2010. Why did the
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#45
BlueDogs or not, as was pointed out to me many times when I was complaining, we LOST power
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#47
Progressive Dems tried to primary some of the vulnerable Blue Dogs, only to be told by
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#48
I have seen no analysis backed up by data that suggests that Democrats lost
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#52
And the so-called "base" of the Democratic Party blames Obama and the Dems rather
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#21
um -- if obama holds firm on SS, why would voters abandon him or the party? it's only if he
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#30
This is the act of governing - compromise. I know it's not a popular meme for the ultras on
BlueCaliDem
Dec 2012
#43
so you're saying he *is* going to compromise on SS? or he's not? which is it? you seem
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#55
Oh yeah, if this goes through the Dems will be blamed big time for cutting SS
Liberal In Texas
Dec 2012
#32
The "safe" Democrats will vote for it, as will the retiring Democrats (think Durbin).
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#34
Work 45 years voting Dem the whole while, and then get f**ked by your own party, work campaigns even
Coyotl
Dec 2012
#36
You are spot on. The Democrats need to put a nail in the coffin of these DINO's.
silvershadow
Dec 2012
#53
I'm sick to death of these DINOs!! Any time we, the "base" or "wishy-washy Lefties"
DearHeart
Dec 2012
#67
Isn't it sad when a standard, middle-of-the road Democrat such as I, with the same values
silvershadow
Dec 2012
#69
It is sad! It seems as though lately, you are expected to go along with the crowd, who are moving
DearHeart
Dec 2012
#73
I just called and wrote to my delegation and the WH. I am tempted to start calling others outside
silvershadow
Dec 2012
#56
And they will deserve it. Time for a Progressive 3rd Party if SS cuts happen.
williesgirl
Dec 2012
#58
Looks like the chained cpi killed Boehner's Plan B deal. House in recess until after Christmas.
silvershadow
Dec 2012
#82