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In reply to the discussion: So, no actual deal. No final decisions. No bills signed. Yet Obama bashing. SHAMEFUL ! [View all]Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)39. Naughty, NAUGHTY Democrats! Stop this instant! Wait till we hear the final word, and then be told,
Well, you do not get it, it was not that bad, it's the long game, who needs that stuff anyhoo, and generally you were wrong, well right, but WRONG about how he capitulated and you are too stupid to get it.
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So, no actual deal. No final decisions. No bills signed. Yet Obama bashing. SHAMEFUL ! [View all]
RBInMaine
Dec 2012
OP
It's the Republican policies -- like the ongoing attacks on the 4th Amendment -- that are
villager
Dec 2012
#76
Huh? I do object. People here seem to have issues when other folks object to these GOP policies.
villager
Dec 2012
#91
this OP is already telling is that horrible is once again gonna be the best there is
hfojvt
Dec 2012
#96
The white house leaked the information. Presumably they didn't mind if people discussed the
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#3
Exactly. which is why the line "shut up while he's negotiating" seems frankly bizarre. Make the
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#7
When it's obama who put it on the table, then it's obama who owns it. Not a good way to make
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#12
so what? what does that have to do with people criticizing chained cpi? and who threatened
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#114
why would people who don't want SS cut vote for someone who'd voted to cut SS? It's not
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#117
actually, the source cited is a democratic senate aide. maybe it's a lie, but that's what was
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#21
Very true. While it might be kinder to the president to hold our tongues, we have
GreenPartyVoter
Dec 2012
#109
I hear ya about the alleged "progressives" and their Obama bashing, but...
TreasonousBastard
Dec 2012
#11
I belive the technical terms include "holding his feet to the fire" or "making him do it"
JHB
Dec 2012
#18
So tell me, how does Obama pull that back and not look like bad faith negotiator?
HereSince1628
Dec 2012
#22
k, so how many things are in that "coloring book" picture & what would the same picture look like
patrice
Dec 2012
#65
I didn't "answer" because the question is flawed by oversimplification, you asked "how" about
patrice
Dec 2012
#95
If the other side is offering something fake, I would consider the same tactic, BUT I
patrice
Dec 2012
#102
Since the other side is not negotiating in good faith, what would be the point of offering what
patrice
Dec 2012
#123
Funny how when President Obama doesn't act like a Democrat, a lot of people don't vote
forestpath
Dec 2012
#27
Blah, blah, blah. Mustn't complain until it's to late to do anything about it. When we lose
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#33
It's not about complaining, per se. It's about how that's done & not admitting the limitations in
patrice
Dec 2012
#63
And lose you will. Every time. And after you get your well-deserved beating, you will come crawling
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#121
I really don't understand, honestly I don't. Why don't you consider "lose you will" a possibility
patrice
Dec 2012
#122
You completely miss the point. Losing is always a possibility, but every time our way has been
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#124
Naughty, NAUGHTY Democrats! Stop this instant! Wait till we hear the final word, and then be told,
Safetykitten
Dec 2012
#39
An aweful lot of people around here cutting ground out from under THEIR OWN positions. Strange, huh?
patrice
Dec 2012
#61
Rational critique is good, but HORSESHIT HURTS YOUR OWN CASE. Why are people doing that?
patrice
Dec 2012
#62
SHAPEFUL, and hopeful that the end result can still be shaped as Obama promised.
Coyotl
Dec 2012
#64
ALL true. . . . SO! this is about how what happens between 2) and 3) happens & telegraphing YOUR OWN
patrice
Dec 2012
#74
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patrice
Dec 2012
#85
I agree with the substance of your post, but I take issue with your history of the
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#92
If anyone saw the "Impeach Obama" thread last night: THAT is the kind of shit this OP
NYC Liberal
Dec 2012
#97
Do we get to talk about it after we're screwed? And, the Prez doesn't have to compromise.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2012
#112