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In reply to the discussion: Criminals will still be able to get assault rifles. [View all]ellisonz
(27,711 posts)3. Todays emerging black market:
Brady Campaign Sues Armslist In Killer's Online Gun Purchase
Posted: 12/12/2012 11:20 am EST | Updated: 12/12/2012 11:20 am EST
A jilted ex-boyfriend pumped a dozen bullets into the body of a museum curator last year. The shooter got a life sentence. The seller who illegally dealt him a .40-caliber handgun was sentenced to one year.
But that's not enough, said the family of the murdered woman and gun control advocates. They want to punish Armslist.com, a sort of Craigslist marketplace of firearm classified ads, claiming it enabled the seller and buyer to conduct the fated deal.
Ex-boyfriend Dmitry Smirnov killed Jitka Vesel in a Chicago suburb on April 13, 2011, after traveling to Washington state to buy a gun from Benedict Ladera, whom he'd found via Armslist.com. The deal was illegal because Washington outlaws gun sales to out-of-state residents. Smirnov, a 20-year-old Russian immigrant living in Canada, paid $200 extra so Ladera would look the other way.
"Armslist breached [its] duty by designing its website to encourage its users to circumvent existing gun laws," said the wrongful death lawsuit Vesel's brother Alex Vesely and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence planned to file Wednesday in Chicago. "Users of Armslist.com could easily evade gun laws with a simple 'click of the mouse.' Armslist ... like Smirnov and the gun seller, must now be held accountable."
More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/12/brady-campaign-armslist-gun-purchase_n_2279465.html
Posted: 12/12/2012 11:20 am EST | Updated: 12/12/2012 11:20 am EST
A jilted ex-boyfriend pumped a dozen bullets into the body of a museum curator last year. The shooter got a life sentence. The seller who illegally dealt him a .40-caliber handgun was sentenced to one year.
But that's not enough, said the family of the murdered woman and gun control advocates. They want to punish Armslist.com, a sort of Craigslist marketplace of firearm classified ads, claiming it enabled the seller and buyer to conduct the fated deal.
Ex-boyfriend Dmitry Smirnov killed Jitka Vesel in a Chicago suburb on April 13, 2011, after traveling to Washington state to buy a gun from Benedict Ladera, whom he'd found via Armslist.com. The deal was illegal because Washington outlaws gun sales to out-of-state residents. Smirnov, a 20-year-old Russian immigrant living in Canada, paid $200 extra so Ladera would look the other way.
"Armslist breached [its] duty by designing its website to encourage its users to circumvent existing gun laws," said the wrongful death lawsuit Vesel's brother Alex Vesely and the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence planned to file Wednesday in Chicago. "Users of Armslist.com could easily evade gun laws with a simple 'click of the mouse.' Armslist ... like Smirnov and the gun seller, must now be held accountable."
More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/12/brady-campaign-armslist-gun-purchase_n_2279465.html
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How the hell is that different from the gun classified section of the NY Times?
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2012
#63
Oh it is both possible and practical, you just don't want to lose your precious toys.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2012
#41
What about cigarettes? They absolutely kill people and make bystanders sick.
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#48
It's about Prohibition. Does it work? Are there alternatives or combinations of strategies?
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#58
IMO, the goal/ideal is to get people to change their minds about guns, smoking, drunk driving.
KittyWampus
Dec 2012
#59
Yes, but psychotic individuals prone to shoot dozens of babies will find it more difficult n/t
RomneyLies
Dec 2012
#10
This is just a WAG, but if the Lanza kid had known there were two uniformed Security Officers
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#15
Or he might have tried to shoot the guards. I agree with you on the tax and monitor all guns though.
JanMichael
Dec 2012
#22
All of these "shooters" are cowards. He would not likely go up against a known armed adult.
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#30
You may be right, who knows, but Mom involves domestic violence and lots of inner demons
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#53
Yeah, so many possibilities and I totally agree, although I've given up on my dream...which would be
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#61
Maybe I'm missing something here...banks and federal offices and civic officers even sports events
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#39
You are probably too young to recall that we didn't always live in a security state.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2012
#43
Shucks, it's tough being a little kid on a big person forum. That being said, 20 or so years ago
libdem4life
Dec 2012
#60
You didn't type this line: "Yes, I am sure SOME criminals will still be able to obtain...
FSogol
Dec 2012
#47
Gun nuts are scaredy cats and losers. They just throw up their hands and whine endlessly
kestrel91316
Dec 2012
#46
you're average dumbshit gun nut wanna be tough guy with a "Man Card" wont deal in the criminal world
pasto76
Dec 2012
#64