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In reply to the discussion: Asperger’s/Mental Illness/Gun control are Red Herrings? Adam was taking controversial drug FANAPT [View all]McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)137. Like saying insulin causes daibetic ketoacidosis since most people who get DKA take insulin.
Insulin is the treatment for DKA. And anti psychotics are the treatment for psychosis.
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Asperger’s/Mental Illness/Gun control are Red Herrings? Adam was taking controversial drug FANAPT [View all]
No Compromise
Dec 2012
OP
Or it could be that this is an unsubstantiated internet rumor posted by a very new poster who has an
Squinch
Dec 2012
#116
I don't see anything relevant to firearms regulation in this line of questioning.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2012
#160
The story you posted used another as its source and that source has recanted or at least doesn't
uppityperson
Dec 2012
#194
or someone paid them to remove it- let the media call the uncle in question and find out
No Compromise
Dec 2012
#203
look I hate guns, won't have one in the house, I am a vegetarian for God's sake
No Compromise
Dec 2012
#170
Lawyer DeCamp worked on Columbine and judge would not allow evidence on drugs
SugarShack
Dec 2012
#157
True...but, I'm going to post to you what I did below..Re: Paradoxical Reactions to Drugs
KoKo
Dec 2012
#196
People here are mixing up anti-depressants and anti-psychotics. They're not the same.
pnwmom
Dec 2012
#119
"unpleasant symptoms" include neuro-malignant syndrome, diabetes, and so on. Official PDR reports
Cetacea
Dec 2012
#175
But schizophrenia and psychosis has existed forever . . . if drugs or something
pnwmom
Dec 2012
#208
This is like people saying that hospitals are dangerous places because people die of cancer there.
pnwmom
Dec 2012
#126
But this isn't an anti-depressant, according to the uncle. It's an anti-psychotic.
pnwmom
Dec 2012
#129
But if they are prescribed, and if that is the case here, it means someone diagnosed
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#58
True, but my point was that the family knows and it is then their responsibility to take steps
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#158
I am sorry that I upset you with that headline- I was just adding to the NY Mag headline
No Compromise
Dec 2012
#180
My daughter was on depression meds throughout high school, Lexapro and the lowest dosage possible.
PATXgirl
Dec 2012
#113
Sometimes it isn't the LACK of access to mental health care, it's the ACCESS itself
Duer 157099
Dec 2012
#5
"I had bad side effects and wasn't interested in taking an antidepressant they kept insisting"
No Compromise
Dec 2012
#183
Don't doctors already make enough $$ ? What kind of sick bastard would push crap
No Compromise
Dec 2012
#205
You say "I suffer from depression, anxiety and ADHD . . . meds since 1994" Do they affect your
jody
Dec 2012
#30
Thanks for the reply and I'm so glad you found meds that help you live a normal life. I have several
jody
Dec 2012
#55
Are you trying to say that people with mental health challenges do not have valid or
Care Acutely
Dec 2012
#50
A lot of other people seem to be implying that. The amount of discrimation and insensitivity is wack
Cetacea
Dec 2012
#188
The drugs are being given in lieu of more costly counseling and hospitalization.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#48
+++1 Careful now, there's NO way, Pharma isn't lurking this issue. & You've just proposed revolution
patrice
Dec 2012
#124
If you take'em, they're the cause, and if you don't take 'em, they're the cause...
cthulu2016
Dec 2012
#17
Exactly. They were in mental health care and its the cause (meds), or they weren't and its the cause
riderinthestorm
Dec 2012
#60
Of course, it only has these negative consequences in a small percentage of the population
No Compromise
Dec 2012
#19
My 88-yr-old mother has smoked since 25, and doesn't have lung cancer. WHAT'S YOUR IRRELEVANT POINT?
WinkyDink
Dec 2012
#25
Sadly, when it comes to treating mental illness, the doctors often don't know what they're doing.
reformist2
Dec 2012
#10
I will be waiting to hear from the first MSM source to develop this angle...and waiting no doubt
Supersedeas
Dec 2012
#89
Nobody is saying that. But SSRI drugs + side effects + guns can = homicide/suicide.
WinkyDink
Dec 2012
#26
Actually, that is what this poster is saying. Gun control as "red herring".
TwilightGardener
Dec 2012
#40
some people have guns and don't behave this way, so normally we look at cause and effect
No Compromise
Dec 2012
#70
"some people have guns and don't behave this way." Right. Like Mrs. Lanza. She was a responsible
Squinch
Dec 2012
#112
Yes, well. Haven't you heard? Guns are a red herring. Says this brand new poster. Who is
Squinch
Dec 2012
#138
and if not possible to protect them from him 100%, obligation to REMOVE FROM THE HOUSE.
elleng
Dec 2012
#93
How many meds do you see advertised daily on TV which list "suicidal thoughts and actions"
Fire Walk With Me
Dec 2012
#59
We definitely need to go "level up" on big pharma, especially where people's and others' lives are
Fire Walk With Me
Dec 2012
#108
You drug up kids at a young age, take away their recess and play time, give them violent video games
valerief
Dec 2012
#97
How much of it is the disease, and how much a reaction to the medication or withdrawal from them?
leveymg
Dec 2012
#98
And his mother may have survived to help other mothers learn what to do & what NOT to do.
patrice
Dec 2012
#117
PHARMA speaking, "No need to change parenting/school/community/culture, just take the right pill!"
patrice
Dec 2012
#110
Your OP would be more credible if you didn't say gun control is a red herring.
Prometheus Bound
Dec 2012
#121
Please note: News reports talking about Fanapt have been withdrawn; 'uncle' may be bogus
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2012
#122
Thanks for that....although it's likely he was either on some med or had gone off one
KoKo
Dec 2012
#134
+1. They are all red herrings. No access to guns means nobody gets shut up. Ever.
riderinthestorm
Dec 2012
#166
OP, "***IF*** this were the case, it would not be the first time...." (emphasis added). nt
patrice
Dec 2012
#136
IF it were guns that killed these children, THAT wouldn't be the first time either.
Squinch
Dec 2012
#143
Like saying insulin causes daibetic ketoacidosis since most people who get DKA take insulin.
McCamy Taylor
Dec 2012
#137
BINGO! This is the true heart of the matter, not the guns, though instrumental, the issue is big
mother earth
Dec 2012
#144
Constitutional rights of privacy mean that no one can get at the drug intake of gun owners.
ancianita
Dec 2012
#153
it is linked at the new york daily magazine which has not scrubbed anything
No Compromise
Dec 2012
#172
Feel free to follow your link to the source. Then cut and paste your proof.
progressoid
Dec 2012
#177
No credible sourcing for the claim about Lanza and the drug. This is tinfoil hat CT crap. n/t
RomneyLies
Dec 2012
#178
Psychotropic drugs + access to weapons of mass destruction...What could possibly go wrong?
Surya Gayatri
Dec 2012
#179
these drugs are being prescribed within the autism community/ parents are floundering
barbaraj
Dec 2012
#187
NO HE WAS NOT. The article your link uses as its source does not have that on it.
uppityperson
Dec 2012
#193