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Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 01:17 PM Dec 2012

Nobody needs to own a gun. NOBODY. [View all]

Let's look at some of the reasons often given as "reasons" why someone might say they "need" a gun.

1. Home defense. This is easily the WEAKEST of all possible arguments. If your gun is properly secured (unloaded, locked in a safe, with trigger lock) then how exactly are you going to have time to get to your gun? Add in the panic that many people would be feeling, you're going to be bumbling around trying to unlock your gun and load the ammo, during which time you could have been calling 911. The only way in which a gun would be effective for home defense would be to keep it loaded, unlocked, and within easy reach - which would then make it easy for anyone else (including children) to access the gun, and would also be illegal in most places.

2. Protection against a tyrannical government. This is laughable on its face. So your handgun or rifle is going to be effective against a government armed with fully automatic weapons, tanks, helicopters, artillery, fighter jets, etc? Even if you're one of these heavily armed militia groups living on a remote compound, how long do you really think you could hold out against a government bent on subjugation?

3. Hunting. Somehow, humans managed to hunt just fine for thousands of years before the invention of firearms.

4. Personal protection. There are other safer, non-lethal means of self-protection. Mace, pepper spray, stun guns, etc. By introducing a gun into the mix, you're escalating the situation into a lethal one. There's also a very good chance that your gun could be used against you. And if you're in an area there there might be dangerous wildlife, do you really think your handgun is going to be an effective form of protection against a charging mountain lion or grizzly bear?

5. Because I CAN. Ah, the good old "ME" argument, and what it usually boils down to. You don't really need a gun, but you want a gun. At least be honest about it.

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Carrying a gun increases risk of getting shot and killed onehandle Dec 2012 #1
The cited article's link to the actual study doesn't work, so... Lizzie Poppet Dec 2012 #29
Works for me. baldguy Dec 2012 #59
Bravo! I do seriously hope you will consider fashioning an OP out of this coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #33
"you want a gun" Yep, that's it in a (gun) nut shell..... Little Star Dec 2012 #2
Your #1 is completely wrong. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #3
As long as you are willing to come up here to the woods Tsiyu Dec 2012 #4
Good, reasonable post LibAsHell Dec 2012 #6
Thanks Tsiyu Dec 2012 #24
I know lots of hunters who don't eat meat if they don't catch meat adigal Dec 2012 #11
It's bow season in a lot of places now Tsiyu Dec 2012 #19
I live in upstate NY, in a similar place adigal Dec 2012 #46
Umm, rifles can be semi-automatic. X_Digger Dec 2012 #21
I am not saying you are incorrect, but I know of no hunters who adigal Dec 2012 #45
I think you have a misconception.. X_Digger Dec 2012 #50
Most states limit the magazine size to 5 rounds hack89 Dec 2012 #53
Ummmm.... what the heck are you talking about? PavePusher Dec 2012 #61
the rifle I hunt deer with pipoman Dec 2012 #26
So how many bullets can you shoot in a minute?? adigal Dec 2012 #48
How fast can you pull the trigger? The point is that semi-automatic is not equivalent to Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #55
Lack of knowledge of an issue, pipoman Dec 2012 #57
How many shots can you get off from a bolt-action in one minute? PavePusher Dec 2012 #62
Correction is needed qkvhj Dec 2012 #42
But I'll bet a bucket of beer you have no issue with government employees having them slackmaster Dec 2012 #5
I knew I could count on you for a typical right-wing response Hugabear Dec 2012 #8
You're here trying to tell people that you are a better judge of what they need than they are slackmaster Dec 2012 #35
I can see you need some education in regards to hunting... cynatnite Dec 2012 #7
Somehow, humanity managed for tens of thousands of years before guns were invented Hugabear Dec 2012 #10
Yes, but it is much more difficult and time consuming adigal Dec 2012 #12
The bows and arrows currently used are far superior than what was made a 100 years ago... cynatnite Dec 2012 #14
Somehow, humanity managed for tens of thousands of years before guns were invented... EX500rider Dec 2012 #32
So, you'll give up your car, electricity, phone, radio, printed books, toilet paper, toothbrushes... PavePusher Dec 2012 #63
#1 just isnt true. justanidea Dec 2012 #9
I tried using the bowie knife and crowbar in Resident Evil and it's just not as good as the guns Puzzledtraveller Dec 2012 #13
Wimp... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #17
I wouldn't go there.... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #15
The only purpose of a gun is to kill Hugabear Dec 2012 #18
Assuming that you're pointing a gun at a person... Jeff In Milwaukee Dec 2012 #22
unless its used for target practice WooWooWoo Dec 2012 #25
Why are there exemptions for off-duty police, judges, prosecutors, and retirees from such FarCenter Dec 2012 #16
I'd Say Most Don't colsohlibgal Dec 2012 #20
Lets see... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #23
My defensive handgun is loaded, MicaelS Dec 2012 #27
Sure. Disarm the police first. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #28
that point gets ZERO discussion here. closeupready Dec 2012 #41
That's the problem, isn't it? Both sides claim to "want a discussion"of the issue, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #49
Yes, exactly, like this thread closeupready Dec 2012 #54
I am a very outspoken person when it comes to gun violence upaloopa Dec 2012 #30
I couldn't have said it better. axetogrind Dec 2012 #34
Wrong. moondust Dec 2012 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author PavePusher Dec 2012 #64
Thank you for some plainly-worded and eloquent common sense. Much coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #31
No OmahaBlueDog Dec 2012 #36
That would be true if none of us had guns. Rex Dec 2012 #37
I absolutely agree! quiche Dec 2012 #38
I do. Jane Austin Dec 2012 #39
You aren't referring to law enforcement so this is a joke. closeupready Dec 2012 #40
What is nice is that no one is forced to own one either. Autumn Dec 2012 #43
Well... Marinedem Dec 2012 #44
As to number 3 riqster Dec 2012 #47
I own a gun for home protection. Your number 1 is wrong. bayareamike Dec 2012 #51
When I was working on the farm, we had martens getting into the chickens Recursion Dec 2012 #52
Nobody "needs" free speech, either. Codeine Dec 2012 #58
in responce to #2 rdking647 Dec 2012 #60
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