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Bluenorthwest

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30. You say: "some are single payer " but only one is single payer....

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 05:06 PM

Dec 2012

I only split that hair because you are playing silly word games with the OP. It does not say there is a unified system shared by all European nations, it does say the various systems have certain things in common which are not shared with our system. Elements in common does not mean unified system, just as 'some have' does not mean 'one has'.

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How European countries regulate private insurance [View all] eridani Dec 2012 OP

404 – Page not found dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #1

I think the apostrophe did it---I'll try to get a permalink n/t eridani Dec 2012 #2

I'd already tried dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #3

Sorted. dipsydoodle Dec 2012 #4

Yea mtasselin Dec 2012 #5

ACA makes a baby step towards this model - Imsurance cos must spend Flatulo Dec 2012 #6

Know what average MLR was back in 1993 when the Clintons were dealing with a "crisis" eridani Dec 2012 #10

You're kidding right? This is why we are so fucked up, people don't even know when they're Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #11

The 20% isn't the profit margin, it's everything other than patient care JHB Dec 2012 #14

Health Insurance Company profits run around 4%. bornskeptic Dec 2012 #16

That sounds like a damn good argument... Prophet 451 Dec 2012 #29

Their administrative costs and payroll are mostly wasteful nonsense n/t eridani Dec 2012 #17

There you go. Single-payer would save about 25% of our annual costs. nt Flatulo Dec 2012 #18

Sorry, I stand corrected. The 20% includes all administrative costs and overhead. nt Flatulo Dec 2012 #19

If the MLR is positive, why aren't per capita health costs going down? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #27

I don't understand this-- brokechris Dec 2012 #7

She did. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #12

all the supposed "source" says brokechris Dec 2012 #20

It's a glitch with this and other sites. Copy the whole thing, not just the blue part, Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #21

I agree that the insurance companies are predatory--however brokechris Dec 2012 #22

You really need to read more carefully. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #25

LOL (quotes from OP in Italics) brokechris Dec 2012 #28

You say: "some are single payer " but only one is single payer.... Bluenorthwest Dec 2012 #30

no--it is not just ONE country that has Single Payer in Europe. brokechris Dec 2012 #31

Let me rephrase, you need to stop reading what you want to see into it and read what was written. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #34

"... you must sell it at the same price to everyone, regardless of health." Why, that's ... Scuba Dec 2012 #8

No shit, right? Back in the day that was generally understood to be the definition of insurance. Flatulo Dec 2012 #9

Yes eridani, that is indeed refreshing. Kurovski Dec 2012 #13

K&R woo me with science Dec 2012 #15

Starting in 2014, Obamacare brings us most of this list (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #23

Odd definition of most. Almost none is a majority now? TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #32

Your first bullet point should be "yes". Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #33

They can charge different prices depending on your age, which amounts to the same thing. eridani Dec 2012 #35

NO. Not platinum / gold etc. PEOPLE. They are different choices of POLICIES. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #36

If the policy you want is one that you cannot afford, there is no fucking "choice" about it eridani Dec 2012 #37

They can charge differently according to age, and that is limited to the exchanges as far as I can TheKentuckian Dec 2012 #38

Americans get hosed. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #24

Great post. Thank you. Whovian Dec 2012 #26