How far over the Cliff are you willing to go?

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1. For the record

Making the Rich pay Clinton era rates is not, I think "going over the cliff". It's doing what needs to be done.

There is no fiscal cliff.

The debt ceiling needs to be raised. The Republicans decided to take the economy and our country hostage in return for that vote.

In any other year in any other administration and with any other congress there would be no fiscal cliff. The debt ceiling would be raised.

Make no mistake about it the Democrats are negotiating with terrorists. I know they don't have any choice but the less we give in to them, the better we all are. Period.