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zappaman

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50. "What? Like the time Eisenhower's CIA asked the Mafia to kill Castro?"

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 07:35 PM

Nov 2012

Diverting the subject again, old friend?
I thought we were discussing JFK's assassination by the hands of double murderer Lee Harvey Oswald and how James Garrison was a "misguided" and Oliver Stone is a bullshit artist?

I will recommend the Director's cut of JFK however. It has a bonus documentary which includes footage from the very first Assassination Symposium held in Dallas in 1991.
You can see me in the footage! Were you there, my friend?
Here's a moment you will appreciate...Gerald Posner had just released his book and was invited to speak. As he was speaking(and getting a terrible response-this wasn't a friendly crowd to him), Dr. Cyril Wecht, who was sitting next to me, as we had been conversing earlier, turned to me and said "Who invited this asshole?"
Good times...

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Oliver Stone's "documentary" is a farce. [View all] Archae Nov 2012 OP

the thing that ruined "JFK" for me Enrique Nov 2012 #1

"Interesting?" Archae Nov 2012 #3

What is up with this Anti-Semitic meme running around in Hollywood? vaberella Nov 2012 #7

Not just liberals in Hollywood. Archae Nov 2012 #9

The part where he says Johonny Nov 2012 #31

The late Larry Hagman in Nixon (1995) MinM Nov 2012 #12

JFK was an incomprehensible confusing mess bluestateguy Nov 2012 #2

Well, O.K. (I read the whole link.)But it was priceless when STONE dropped his bomb on Morning Scab UTUSN Nov 2012 #4

I agree JFK was make believe. But it is great movie making. applegrove Nov 2012 #5

I also agree oswaldactedalone Nov 2012 #8

As a kid, my brother used to have a book on a jfk conspiracy. I used applegrove Nov 2012 #34

it's a ten-part TV series, not a 'documentary'. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #6

Ok, it's a "documentary" series then. Archae Nov 2012 #10

It's loathsome on a liberal website that anyone would DARE judge a move without seeing it first. KittyWampus Nov 2012 #39

Is there a post where the OP says they haven't seen it? zappaman Nov 2012 #45

i vowed around JFK never to watch a stone movie. pansypoo53219 Nov 2012 #11

last movie I saw from stone was platoon. Won't waste time with his vision of things anymore still_one Nov 2012 #27

Oliver Stone has been a RW whipping boy for a long, long time (since Platoon) JCMach1 Nov 2012 #13

"Sometimes?" Archae Nov 2012 #14

there are some of his movies that aren't JCMach1 Nov 2012 #53

Well, I would have to watch the piece in order to judge it fairly, MadHound Nov 2012 #15

Stone does the nation a service by bringing up the things the rightwing prefers we move on from. Octafish Nov 2012 #18

In other news: water is wet. Lizzie Poppet Nov 2012 #16

Absolutely no cred Berlum Nov 2012 #17

To me JFK was more about the fascination with the event and all the conspiracy theories CBGLuthier Nov 2012 #19

So you've seen it? joeybee12 Nov 2012 #20

Too many to count. Archae Nov 2012 #21

Is that the same Wikipedia famous for CIA revisions? Octafish Nov 2012 #22

Garrison was a fraud zappaman Nov 2012 #24

Garrison was a World War II hero and a guy who devoted his life to Justice. Octafish Nov 2012 #38

So war heroes can't be nuts? zappaman Nov 2012 #46

What? Like the time Eisenhower's CIA asked the Mafia to kill Castro? Octafish Nov 2012 #49

"What? Like the time Eisenhower's CIA asked the Mafia to kill Castro?" zappaman Nov 2012 #50

I think the other poster was asking if you'd seen the documentary you are testifying Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #32

Yup. nt woo me with science Nov 2012 #43

What is sad is that way too many people view JFK as a documentary zappaman Nov 2012 #23

One Big Thing Oliver Stone got right: JFK was pulling US out of Vietnam. Octafish Nov 2012 #25

Not according to Bobby zappaman Nov 2012 #26

So what? That was before LBJ used the Tonkin Gulf Incident as casus belli for sending in draftees. Octafish Nov 2012 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Nov 2012 #41

I take it you object to the "USA as Empire" angle? Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #28

He did a hatchet job on Harry Truman JPZenger Nov 2012 #29

I don't care for most of his films, nor for him personally, but this is not valid criticism Bluenorthwest Nov 2012 #30

I watched 10 minutes of Stone's history show. Archae Nov 2012 #48

So, does this mean "Scarface" is fiction? LTR Nov 2012 #33

X - P = Richard Case Nagell MinM Nov 2012 #35

He's fantastic and I'll be watching this LittleBlue Nov 2012 #36

The worst part of that movie Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #40

First time I heard that stupid thing talk I fell "back and to the left" on my ass. :-p nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #42

onto the grassy knoll? Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #44

A grassy Knoll in the Dagobah System. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2012 #47

These are not the magic bullets you're looking for Capt. Obvious Nov 2012 #51

But his "W." had me laughing until I cried rock Nov 2012 #52