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Caliman73

(11,766 posts)
21. And yet, when leftists talk about how it is a systemic issue ... they get dismissed.
Thu May 23, 2024, 03:18 PM
May 23

Part of the problem is that While Democrats and Liberals are WAY WAY better than Conservatives, they still play by the same rules within the same system. Yes Capitalism can be restrained, but it will ALWAYS ALWAYS try to break those restraints, and money will flow into fewer and fewer hands and those fewer, wealthier people, will try to change the rules to keep themselves in power.

The problem is the incentive structure. We are ALL OF US taught "competition" and "rugged individualism" and "bootstrapping" and if you don't succeed, then it's because you are lazy or there is something wrong with you, or your people, or your culture. All of us have that inside our minds to some extent. Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative. It is the degree to which it drives us. Liberals recognize inequality and think is isn't a good thing. They want to spread the benefits of society more equitably, but again, they think that Capitalism is an ally, that "the wealth" can be spread through government. It shouldn't be about "the wealth". People need food, water, shelter, clothing, etc.. just to basically survive. Then we need to be mentally and emotionally fulfilled. Capitalism doesn't do that because Capitalism is designed to SELL. It sells you what you think is happiness but only if it makes somebody money and only if you can afford it. If you can't then it's because you don't deserve it.

We need redefine what "success" is. We need to redefine our relationship to one another. That sounds idealistic and utopian, but the reality is that if we keep going this way, we are all going to die, and soon.

It is not just the billionaires who will own us. Putin and Xi as well. Irish_Dem May 23 #1
Unfortunately, experiential learners seem to make up... Hugin May 23 #4
yes. Steep learning curves seem to be the norm. Irish_Dem May 23 #6
I'm one of those that need 2 or 3 or more experiences to really learn. erronis May 23 #8
Just an FYI, a NYT story had Biden receiving support from MORE billionaires than Trump in 2020... WarGamer May 23 #2
I don't subscribe to NYT. Did the dtory provide any data or dource? Just curious KPN May 23 #3
The Dems will use the money for Cyrano May 23 #5
Also don't subscribe anymore to the very tired old gray dame. More background would be helpful. erronis May 23 #7
So sad about the NYT. It used to be the gold standard. kerry-is-my-prez May 23 #18
Yeah, I've read that too Farmer-Rick May 23 #25
DING DING DING!!! 2naSalit May 23 #9
Most of those billionaires think they're special wolfie001 May 23 #10
Then he's about as religious as the average christian. NanaCat May 23 #16
Yep!!! wolfie001 May 23 #26
I lived in Germany in the Fifties and Sixties and learned the lessons about the Nazis. barbaraann May 23 #11
Leonard Leo Maggiemayhem May 23 #12
Recommended. H2O Man May 23 #13
K&R...nt Wounded Bear May 23 #14
Just like Reagan was a front man... IthinkThereforeIAM May 23 #15
WTF NanaCat May 23 #20
Reagan was a tool Traurigkeit May 23 #24
I have been thinking and saying the same thing, BlueKota May 23 #17
That's what scares me. The only hope I have is that without his cult of personality, the people behind Trump will Martin68 May 23 #19
And yet, when leftists talk about how it is a systemic issue ... they get dismissed. Caliman73 May 23 #21
Trump is a useful idiot. Maggiemayhem May 23 #22
Where are the investigations? Why are there none? onecaliberal May 23 #23
THIS "Billionaires, whose names we don't even know ..." live love laugh May 23 #27
"Those who ran Germany's "Third Reich" sold much the same shit" speak easy May 23 #28
Exactly... posted this last week. This has been a slow moving coup for 40-50 years Cheezoholic May 23 #29
There will be future elections. SleeplessinSoCal May 24 #30
John Birch Society dream come true. czarjak May 24 #31
Yup, this posting is correct. republianmushroom May 24 #32
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