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MarineCombatEngineer

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Tue May 21, 2024, 11:11 AM May 2024

When I got home from my 2nd tour in Vietnam, my younger brother was heavily involved [View all]

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in the anti war protests, we got into a heated discussion about the morals of the war, he went on and on about US war crimes and at that point I'd had enough of his platitudes and asked him that as a Marine who had served twice in Vietnam if I was the enemy, he came back with the most profound answer I've ever heard, he said, and I quote, "No brother, you're not the enemy, you're a victim".

That threw me and I really had no answer to him, tragically, he was killed by a drunk driver in 1980 and I truly miss his wisdom to this day.

Just reflecting on my life here while I await for my agent to line up a load for me.

Everyone, enjoy the rest of the week.
Peace out
Dan.

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Sorry about your loss. Nt spooky3 May 2024 #1
Thank you for sharing. David__77 May 2024 #2
The pain of his loss still reverberates in my soul, MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #3
wow. so many ways that argument could... ret5hd May 2024 #4
A beautiful story, thanks. cilla4progress May 2024 #5
Looking back now, I can say, yes he was. MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #6
You should be proud of your brother and pwb May 2024 #7
I am very proud of my brother and my service, but especially my late brother MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #8
Since I came home... almost 60 years ago now.. albacore May 2024 #36
Thank you for sharing your poignant reflections with us (me). Insightful, memorable moments help us all. AnotherMother4Peace May 2024 #9
Sorry for you loss. Hope you have many good memories of him. LiberalFighter May 2024 #10
Thank you and I do, MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #11
Exactly. In Vietnam and Iraq, we believed what our leaders told us. surfered May 2024 #12
He was right malaise May 2024 #13
It could be he arrived at that assessment because you were in his life. LiberalFighter May 2024 #14
You're correct, later on in life, he said that his views on the war MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #17
You are both cool dudes. Peace. Joinfortmill May 2024 #15
Just the word "Vietnam" is overwhelming to many to this day. I think it can't be described to those twodogsbarking May 2024 #16
You're right. My father was the same way about the Korean conflict. I never really got the 'story' from him SWBTATTReg May 2024 #20
My dad would never talk about his WWII Navy experience either. LiberalArkie May 2024 #27
Very well put by your brother. 1WorldHope May 2024 #18
Very well said and by brother would've wholeheartedly agreed with you. nt. MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #19
Smedley Butler (Major General, USMC, Ret) would agree Klondike Kat May 2024 #35
I will check it out! Thanks! 1WorldHope May 2024 #47
You mentioned the world 3 times in 1 post DontBelieveEastisEas May 2024 #53
2 worlds and 1 planet is my count so far. 😜 1WorldHope May 2024 #54
My hope is for 1 world DontBelieveEastisEas May 2024 #56
Maybe there is that reality in another parallel universe where we choose differently. 1WorldHope May 2024 #58
VVAW were one of the most level headed groups Voltaire2 May 2024 #21
Your brother DownriverDem May 2024 #22
I marched KT2000 May 2024 #23
Did he have any thoughts on other wars? LiberalFighter May 2024 #24
He was killed in 1980, but he hated all wars because of the death and destruction they caused. nt MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #25
Thank you for sharing Duncanpup May 2024 #26
Sounds like a good brother. SarahD May 2024 #28
He was and I miss him every day. nt MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #30
After all this time .. so rightly said. Bless you and your brother. Srkdqltr May 2024 #29
Seems likely you brother loved you very much Attilatheblond May 2024 #31
Sorry for your loss Americanme May 2024 #32
My dad was on a destroyer - early Vietnam Days - when I was born TBF May 2024 #33
My husband was a survival trainer later MOMFUDSKI May 2024 #34
I read your post several times. democrank May 2024 #37
This is a heartbreaking story, and my thanks to you for sharing it FakeNoose May 2024 #38
2 words that sum up what was wrong with Vietnam: Henry Kissinger onetexan May 2024 #39
Two more words: Robert McNamara. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2024 #42
Thank you for two tours of duty AKwannabe May 2024 #40
I am so sorry for your loss. sheshe2 May 2024 #41
They also serve who only stand and wait. ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2024 #43
Your brother lives on in you Bayard May 2024 #44
Your brother sounds like good people, I think his death was a loss to all of us Warpy May 2024 #45
This is sad. beemerphill May 2024 #46
❤️ littlemissmartypants May 2024 #48
We also must never forget the DENVERPOPS May 2024 #49
I took part in protests. Demobrat May 2024 #50
Of course. I believe 95% of antiwar protestors believe the same thing lostnfound May 2024 #51
I was curious about the oath I took back in summer of 1973. Looked it up. 70sEraVet May 2024 #52
K&R Tom of Temecula May 2024 #55
Remember this: The dirty, smelly hippies were right. tclambert May 2024 #57
I enlisted purely so my dad couldn't shut me up at the dinner table over the war because I didn't know anything ... marble falls May 2024 #59
Navy vet here.. Permanut May 2024 #60
You brother musclecar6 May 2024 #61
Beautifully said. AloeVera May 2024 #62
Thank you AloeVera, MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #63
Me too. AloeVera May 2024 #64
Sorry for the late, late answer, MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #66
Sorry for your loss, MCE Nixie May 2024 #65
. BoRaGard May 2024 #67
Love your DU handle. MarineCombatEngineer May 2024 #68
Thank You for sharing. Stuart G May 2024 #69
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