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Sympthsical

(9,870 posts)
15. We're discussing tactics
Fri May 10, 2024, 12:53 PM
May 2024

People are saying disruption = good. Even the disruption of the bridges.

So why the condemnation of the truckers and not these protesters.

Could it be because this isn't really about principle and more about, "What argument do I need to make right now that fits my politics?"

Perish the thought that people would be so brazenly and hypocritically utilitarian.

Civil rights movement was for INCLUSION. yagotme May 2024 #1
Yes, there's so much desperation to equate the two when they are nothing alike. BannonsLiver May 2024 #5
Yeah, 'nothing alike'. The civil rights movement wanted our citizens to have their rights, DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #102
"...nothing alike..." Are you sure? yagotme May 2024 #115
Correct Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2024 #20
Wrong on every count Doc Sportello May 2024 #31
How am I wrong? yagotme May 2024 #37
It's actually very offending to compare the two jimfields33 May 2024 #51
I didn't consider the word "offended", but it sure seems to apply. nt yagotme May 2024 #54
But in Gaza, Palestinian civilians, women and children are treated as 'collateral damage' DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #104
Being used as human shields, and being killed by Hamas directly. yagotme May 2024 #116
Israel will buster bomb a whole block of kids & families womanofthehills May 2024 #149
Israel HAS given warnings before attacks. Hamas has not. yagotme May 2024 #150
How do you know what MLK would say if he were alive today? yardwork May 2024 #66
I came here to post that exact point! yardwork May 2024 #65
The protests are not about demonizing Jews malaise May 2024 #93
This message was self-deleted by its author debm55 May 2024 #97
It is now 'fashionable' to oppose death by bombing of thousands of women and children DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #105
"The protests are not about demonizing Jews" yagotme May 2024 #117
Whether intentional or not. It is now- attacking American Jews even kids. It is a bad scene and helps no one. Demsrule86 May 2024 #127
Excellent Point.. there's No comparison between Rosa Cha May 2024 #82
Rosa Parks was arrested, NOT KILLED--- DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #106
How about those shouting/posting signs and banners "Intifada". Are they wrong? yagotme May 2024 #118
The Gaza protests ARE for 'inclusion'--- inclusion with the LIVING, DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #103
Then they need to go protest the Hamas government. In Gaza. yagotme May 2024 #119
No way are they are the same. No way at all. debm55 May 2024 #2
Help me out here. RandySF May 2024 #3
Glad to help. H2O Man May 2024 #6
You nailed it malaise May 2024 #112
Yeah!... Think. Again. May 2024 #8
Would you equate denying Jewish students entry to campus facilities with Ms. Park's not getting out of her seat? RandySF May 2024 #11
First of all... Think. Again. May 2024 #12
They also denied Jewish students access to certain areas. yagotme May 2024 #25
Rosa Parks did not deny anyone a seat Mossfern May 2024 #30
I know.. Shocking. Cha May 2024 #77
If refusing to vacate a seat so other (white) passengers could use it... Think. Again. May 2024 #87
As a passenger she took up ONE seat. Dr. Strange May 2024 #98
She didn't deny anyone a seat...I suggest you check google. She merely refused to give up her seat. Demsrule86 May 2024 #85
If refusing to vacate a seat so other (white) passengers could use it... Think. Again. May 2024 #88
If you can't see the diference, I can't help you. And that was an Amercan protest for our civil rights. Demsrule86 May 2024 #120
I didn't ask for your help. Think. Again. May 2024 #122
You really want to die on this hill? It is OK to call little kids baby killers at an American school. That is OK? Demsrule86 May 2024 #125
You're the one who can't seem to move on. Think. Again. May 2024 #126
Yeah, she denied a seat to all those white guys, and threatened and assaulted them when they tried yagotme May 2024 #40
Did you happen to see... Think. Again. May 2024 #41
Yes, I did. yagotme May 2024 #44
If refusing to vacate a seat so other (white) passengers could use it... Think. Again. May 2024 #50
The seat she was required to "give up" was in the "black" section. yagotme May 2024 #53
I rest my case. Think. Again. May 2024 #55
So, Rosa Parks is similar to terrorist-supporting, Jew-hating individuals denying Jews access yagotme May 2024 #56
I wasn't comparing Ms. Parks to the provocatuers. Think. Again. May 2024 #70
From your post #12: yagotme May 2024 #114
And as is clear in my post... Think. Again. May 2024 #121
You initially compared her to the protestors. yagotme May 2024 #128
You don't understand how discussions work, do you? Think. Again. May 2024 #130
Perfectly. yagotme May 2024 #132
Instigators, provocateurs, chaos agents, etc... Think. Again. May 2024 #138
Yes, they are, when they are imbedded with the protestors. yagotme May 2024 #139
They are not protesters. Think. Again. May 2024 #141
YOU say that. yagotme May 2024 #142
Protesters are the people who are protesting... Think. Again. May 2024 #143
The people that are there to not protest are protesting to cover the fact that they are not there to not protest. yagotme May 2024 #144
And they are not protesters. Think. Again. May 2024 #145
While they are protesting. nt yagotme May 2024 #146
Protesters protest, people faking protesting are not protesters. Think. Again. May 2024 #147
Stop? You're making the assertion that individuals standing with protestors, yagotme May 2024 #148
It is not the same-now if she stood by door and wouldn't LET white men in at all...that is what we have here. And these Demsrule86 May 2024 #123
I respect your anti-first amendment position... Think. Again. May 2024 #124
That is fine. I don't want to see right wing assholes emboldened by antisemitic bullshit from these protests. Demsrule86 May 2024 #129
My belief is that it is... Think. Again. May 2024 #131
Exactly. The civil rights protests also weren't about Nixie May 2024 #10
Recommended. H2O Man May 2024 #4
All protests are disruptive. That's their nature. MineralMan May 2024 #24
Thank you. nevergiveup May 2024 #38
Anti war protests were because the US was involved in the war Mossfern May 2024 #32
Depends on how H2O Man May 2024 #49
And what did they really accomplish? Nixone was elected twice. The war continued. Demsrule86 May 2024 #86
The direct involvement by US troops would have continued for a lot longer, DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #107
We send huge sums of money and weapons to Israel Sky Jewels May 2024 #101
Again, not the same. Mossfern May 2024 #110
Ludicrous comparisons. It just shows the desperation. Nixie May 2024 #7
Agree with you Nixie. Many of the marchers died or were badly beaten for equal rights. This right now is like cosplay. debm55 May 2024 #28
Rec'd! Mossfern May 2024 #33
Thx, Deb, and you nailed it with "how dare they" compare Nixie May 2024 #95
And a lot of Jews marched for egual rights beside their African American brothers and sisters. And some died for that debm55 May 2024 #64
Trucker blockades were call disruptive too. Mountainguy May 2024 #9
You do understand that... Think. Again. May 2024 #13
We're discussing tactics Sympthsical May 2024 #15
No, Mountainguy and I were discussing... Think. Again. May 2024 #16
Well, we see people protesting against Jews in America Sympthsical May 2024 #19
No, Jews in America, as a whole, are definitely not oppressing anyone, that I am aware of. Think. Again. May 2024 #27
Wrong sarisataka May 2024 #26
No, the protests are based on the university's refusals to divest from Israel financially. Think. Again. May 2024 #29
Here- sarisataka May 2024 #43
Those demands were made after the initial protests were formed... Think. Again. May 2024 #48
I can only lead you to the water sarisataka May 2024 #57
How gracious of you. Think. Again. May 2024 #71
Looking back to where the goalposts started sarisataka May 2024 #76
Excellent POint.. These so called "protesters" are Cha May 2024 #81
This is all far more Louis Farrakhan than MLK Sympthsical May 2024 #14
The antisemitism checks out... AZSkiffyGeek May 2024 #52
Where did the Civil Rights movement disrupt institutions that weren't engaged in denying civil rights? brooklynite May 2024 #17
The universities ARE engaged in denying civil rights by... Think. Again. May 2024 #18
No they're not Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2024 #21
So, the universities are at fault because they allow Jewish students to attend classes there? yagotme May 2024 #23
You are correct, surely that is not what I mean. Think. Again. May 2024 #34
"Drawing attention to", and shutting down access, denying entry to a certain group, etc. yagotme May 2024 #42
We might have come full-circle back to... Think. Again. May 2024 #45
I did not reference any of those. yagotme May 2024 #47
Not to be snarky. But it is spelled Israel.not Isreal. debm55 May 2024 #35
Thank you, I try to be as typo-free as possible but it doesn't really seem... Think. Again. May 2024 #39
"The universities ARE engaged in denying civil rights by their refusal to divest in Israel." Jedi Guy May 2024 #59
Being murdered is the ultimate denial of civil rights.... Think. Again. May 2024 #73
Universities aren't murdering anyone, though, unless I missed a really big news story. That was what you said. Jedi Guy May 2024 #79
um, okay. Think. Again. May 2024 #80
So, anyone who is invested in an Israeli company is actively engaged in denying civil rights? Patton French May 2024 #60
Financial support of entities denying civil rights can imply culpability, yes. Think. Again. May 2024 #74
Can you expand on that? maxsolomon May 2024 #62
You might have notice that... Think. Again. May 2024 #75
I'd have to be blind not to notice that. maxsolomon May 2024 #78
MLK's movement was strategically disciplined Bad Thoughts May 2024 #22
So the NYPD was brought into Brooklyn CUNY in 1969 JustAnotherGen May 2024 #36
I am glad people are speaking out. David__77 May 2024 #46
Stop trying to make fetch happen. emulatorloo May 2024 #58
Exactly. It's not going to happen. betsuni May 2024 #94
I get more 2016 vibes myself. LeftInTX May 2024 #61
Yeah no kidding. emulatorloo May 2024 #67
And: The labor movement, the women's suffrage movement, the Green movement, Ping Tung May 2024 #63
The Early History of the UW Black Student Union jalan48 May 2024 #68
The Civil Rights movement was intended to address flaws in our own Constitution... PeaceWave May 2024 #69
Thank You! Cha May 2024 #83
The "current movement" is intended to address.... Think. Again. May 2024 #91
Kick red dog 1 May 2024 #72
Why the comparisons to the civilian rights movement? elias7 May 2024 #84
They've been attaching Palestinian stuff to the Civil RIghts movement for decades. LeftInTX May 2024 #90
A entire raft of sealions sails a sun dappeld sea. Torchlight May 2024 #89
Yes, everyone who disagrees with you shall be ....called a funny name. Think. Again. May 2024 #92
It does not follow Torchlight May 2024 #96
Hit sea lions holler just like dogs do, it seems... N/T Jedi Guy May 2024 #99
They won't give up! betsuni May 2024 #113
Amazing! It's just like the original Wondermark comic strip! AnrothElf May 2024 #111
Wrong. Civil Rights movement developed over time (incrementalism) and was highly organized to be effective. betsuni May 2024 #100
'People become more conservative as they get old' is an old saying... DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #108
For example? Can you paraphrase what anyone says here that's conservative/supportive of fascism betsuni May 2024 #109
Sometimes they become wiser as they remember delisen May 2024 #137
Civil rights protests were about the discrimination in the United States. BlueTsunami2018 May 2024 #133
Oh noes. People didn't like other people harassing EllieBC May 2024 #134
Obviously. Jirel May 2024 #135
Concerning the actions of the protesters, the current protests are very mild compared to what I saw in the 60's. patphil May 2024 #136
False comparison... Campus protesters are literally JCMach1 May 2024 #140
Cutting through all the above bull . . . Aussie105 May 2024 #151
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