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Johnny2X2X

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95. And yet she described sex she didn't want to have

Tue May 7, 2024, 05:38 PM

May 2024

This was not consensual sex, she doesn’t think it was rape. But what she describes was being tricked into going to someone’s hotel suite under false pretenses and then feeling like she was trapped there.

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Was Stormy Daniels raped by Donald Trump? [View all] Johnny2X2X May 2024 OP

My bet is that she discusses this Tom of Temecula May 2024 #1

Link please !!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! .l ! ! !! ! ! !!!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 May 2024 #86

"ashamed that I didn't stop it" mnmoderatedem May 2024 #2

And she worked with Ron Jeremy, assumably. Marcuse May 2024 #9

I think she did... FarPoint May 2024 #12

Be careful. There's a difference between choosing to do things and being coerced. yardwork May 2024 #40

I get that mnmoderatedem May 2024 #64

And conversely, someone can choose to use sex to gain an advantage without being coerced. meadowlander May 2024 #105

She never actually GAVE consent. He just hopped on top of her, DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #117

Maybe. LuckyCharms May 2024 #3

Agree Johnny2X2X May 2024 #18

You are so right wryter2000 May 2024 #31

That's what I think after reading this too - TBF May 2024 #54

Her testimony makes my heart ache... FarPoint May 2024 #50

He's worse than filth. ShazzieB May 2024 #81

She was /is very Brave.... FarPoint May 2024 #89

She processes her " alert messages" with ambivalence. FarPoint May 2024 #4

I have had a date rape incident that FalloutShelter May 2024 #5

That is certainly the way it sounds PatSeg May 2024 #8

It was a long time ago FalloutShelter May 2024 #17

I can understand the "indelible" part PatSeg May 2024 #26

Just once was I really scared. He was 21 and MOMFUDSKI May 2024 #37

Sixties for me as well PatSeg May 2024 #48

Trump even when young was always a big guy, & used his size to get his way... Hekate May 2024 #76

It's the kind of thing you cannot forget. MuseRider May 2024 #109

Yes, life goes on PatSeg May 2024 #111

In retrospect.... FarPoint May 2024 #16

I am sorry to hear that...horrible. Demsrule86 May 2024 #62

Is this how she described the circumstances before? PatSeg May 2024 #6

I remember her saying after she came out of the bathromm gab13by13 May 2024 #25

You know, that sounds like what I remember as well PatSeg May 2024 #30

It was 18 years ago. I wouldn't read much into an irrelevant detail like that unblock May 2024 #71

The spaces around "non/consensual" and "un/wanted" are large and always moving, which is why people are reluctant WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #7

And unwanted penetration, no matter how slight, constitutes Jerry2144 May 2024 #11

Both legally and ethically, there is a difference between "unwanted" and "nonconsensual." WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #22

Unwanted penetration isn't rape? There's a jury in NY that would like a word with you. OMGWTF May 2024 #52

As I said, it can be, but isn't always. WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #59

Riiiiiight Hekate May 2024 #108

It happens. I provided an example in another post: WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #112

But we are not talking about 2 people who are in a relationship, here.... DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #120

Daniels says she doesn't consider her experience as rape, so. WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #122

Yeah, Donald Trump says the same thing.... DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #125

How exactly can 'unwanted penetration' be consensual ?? DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #119

As I say, I've provided an example elsewhere: WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #123

Really? Personally I believe if a person doesn't give permission then it is rape. Demsrule86 May 2024 #58

People consent to penetrative sex that they don't necessarily want all the time, for a variety of reasons. WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #63

Semantics. ShazzieB May 2024 #87

. WhiskeyGrinder May 2024 #90

Thanks for the clarification. ShazzieB May 2024 #91

Exactly. DemocraticPatriot May 2024 #121

Just as an example, meadowlander May 2024 #107

Sicker than we know I'll bet. n/t B.See May 2024 #28

My two cents - it sounds like maybe she was drugged, or drunk? FakeNoose May 2024 #74

She has already stated it was consensual. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 2024 #10

What she described isn't consensual Johnny2X2X May 2024 #19

I'll put that in "true, but...." category. Happy Hoosier May 2024 #20

It is so much worse if you have feelings for the man...what a betrayal. I was asaulted. But it Demsrule86 May 2024 #36

Oh my!!! I'm SOOOO sorry!!! Happy Hoosier May 2024 #55

It was rough. I made it through. I wouldn't leave the House withou my parents for a year. Demsrule86 May 2024 #60

I was in love with the man who ultimately sexually assaulted me. TSExile May 2024 #80

Thank you for sharing that! Happy Hoosier May 2024 #82

Thank you... TSExile May 2024 #110

She says in her documentary Tree Lady May 2024 #13

I seem to remember Jilly_in_VA May 2024 #14

"felt like the room spun in slow motion" LiberalFighter May 2024 #15

It does sound as if she were drugged. badhair77 May 2024 #21

Think About What He Said In The 'Access Hollywood Tape'....... global1 May 2024 #27

I would put nothing past him MustLoveBeagles May 2024 #32

That's what I thought. The dizziness she described and the gap in her memory. nt pnwmom May 2024 #75

She reluctantly consented, and not verbally. pandr32 May 2024 #23

I tend to agree, based on the limited knowledge that we have. LuckyCharms May 2024 #24

And Trump being Trump PatSeg May 2024 #34

He always assumes he will get what he wants. pandr32 May 2024 #43

And he probably assumes PatSeg May 2024 #93

Absolutely. pandr32 May 2024 #96

She was looking for a way out Johnny2X2X May 2024 #35

He may have drugged her. Demsrule86 May 2024 #29

It sounds like it MustLoveBeagles May 2024 #33

I have always thought he is a rapist...I believe his first wife descriped abuse and forced sex Demsrule86 May 2024 #39

I remember that MustLoveBeagles May 2024 #77

Does anybody still believe that trump will take the stand, in his defense ? republianmushroom May 2024 #38

He will not Johnny2X2X May 2024 #42

If there is a brain in his atty's head, absolutely not. nt TBF May 2024 #57

The humiliation of Slobby continues unabated. NoMoreRepugs May 2024 #41

So her story was heartfelt and disturbing Johnny2X2X May 2024 #44

wasn't the idea she felt like she needed to if she would have a chance to go on The Apprentice? Definitely coercion LymphocyteLover May 2024 #45

Harvey Weinstein comes to mind Johnny2X2X May 2024 #49

She didn't want to have sex. Demobrat May 2024 #46

That happened to me as a teen Tree Lady May 2024 #65

😢 Demobrat May 2024 #66

What she does professionally is her choice clearly... Quanto Magnus May 2024 #47

It 'may' have been consensual, but she was definitely JCMach1 May 2024 #51

She's explicitly stated before that she doesn't consider it rape. tinrobot May 2024 #53

She's still coping Johnny2X2X May 2024 #56

Exactly. SunSeeker May 2024 #67

And The Apprentice was the back drop here Johnny2X2X May 2024 #70

Yup. "And if you're a star, they let you do it," i.e. you get away with it. nt SunSeeker May 2024 #73

I haven't read any of the background previously - but just reading this excerpt of yours - it's pretty chilling TBF May 2024 #61

All women I know have been in that "gray" situation, including me. SunSeeker May 2024 #68

Now imagine having to report that as a porn actress... JCMach1 May 2024 #69

It's 2024 and a woman's body autonomy is still up for grabs, literally dlk May 2024 #72

Exactly Johnny2X2X May 2024 #79

I felt the same way after my sexual assault in 2015. TSExile May 2024 #78

Most sex workers are inflicted in what is a continuing rape for as long as they are in the "business" ... marble falls May 2024 #83

Aside from the other details, "imbalance of power" sounds like rape to me underpants May 2024 #84

No. Goodheart May 2024 #85

Biden was right, trump really is a sick fuck. Torchlight May 2024 #88

was this what she said in court today? or is it from a book she wrote? orleans May 2024 #92

This is fucking bullshit DenaliDemocrat May 2024 #94

And yet she described sex she didn't want to have Johnny2X2X May 2024 #95

She's a grown woman and made a point to state DenaliDemocrat May 2024 #98

she's a grifter Skittles May 2024 #114

She didn't feel empowered enough to tell him no Warpy May 2024 #97

Drugged and raped Ishoutandscream2 May 2024 #99

Yes, rape Beck23 May 2024 #100

This is what djt's 'sexual encounter' with 'Stormy' looks like to me: Jrose May 2024 #101

"If rape is inevitable, you may as well relax and enjoy it." czarjak May 2024 #102

Ask her. Lunabell May 2024 #103

No Comment n/t Jacson6 May 2024 #104

He knew what he was doing. Women know he intended to be intimidating. 58Sunliner May 2024 #106

I wouldn't believe much of what either one of them says Skittles May 2024 #113

It sounds more like date-rape, which, in the end is rape. Gore1FL May 2024 #115

It's not for us to say. Sparkly May 2024 #116

Short answer? Yes. angrychair May 2024 #118

Trumps a predator...Where's Chris Hansen Tribetime May 2024 #124

The 8 ball says ... aggiesal May 2024 #126

Yes, it does sound like rape. And of course the precedent was the civil PatrickforB May 2024 #127

She spoke her truth SARose May 2024 #128

Trump has raped civilization. twodogsbarking May 2024 #129

She didn't want it to officially turn into rape so she went along with it ecstatic May 2024 #130

It was definitely intimidation... Joinfortmill May 2024 #131