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In reply to the discussion: Was Stormy Daniels raped by Donald Trump? [View all]Johnny2X2X
(21,093 posts)19. What she described isn't consensual
And she obviously experienced trauma during and after it, she seems like she's still coping with the trauma.
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Be careful. There's a difference between choosing to do things and being coerced.
yardwork
May 2024
#40
And conversely, someone can choose to use sex to gain an advantage without being coerced.
meadowlander
May 2024
#105
The spaces around "non/consensual" and "un/wanted" are large and always moving, which is why people are reluctant
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2024
#7
Both legally and ethically, there is a difference between "unwanted" and "nonconsensual."
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2024
#22
Unwanted penetration isn't rape? There's a jury in NY that would like a word with you.
OMGWTF
May 2024
#52
But we are not talking about 2 people who are in a relationship, here....
DemocraticPatriot
May 2024
#120
Really? Personally I believe if a person doesn't give permission then it is rape.
Demsrule86
May 2024
#58
People consent to penetrative sex that they don't necessarily want all the time, for a variety of reasons.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2024
#63
It is so much worse if you have feelings for the man...what a betrayal. I was asaulted. But it
Demsrule86
May 2024
#36
It was rough. I made it through. I wouldn't leave the House withou my parents for a year.
Demsrule86
May 2024
#60
That's what I thought. The dizziness she described and the gap in her memory. nt
pnwmom
May 2024
#75
I have always thought he is a rapist...I believe his first wife descriped abuse and forced sex
Demsrule86
May 2024
#39
Does anybody still believe that trump will take the stand, in his defense ?
republianmushroom
May 2024
#38
wasn't the idea she felt like she needed to if she would have a chance to go on The Apprentice? Definitely coercion
LymphocyteLover
May 2024
#45
Yup. "And if you're a star, they let you do it," i.e. you get away with it. nt
SunSeeker
May 2024
#73
I haven't read any of the background previously - but just reading this excerpt of yours - it's pretty chilling
TBF
May 2024
#61