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Sympthsical

(9,885 posts)
47. It's pure Dunning Kruger
Tue Apr 23, 2024, 08:19 AM
Apr 2024

My second round of college has been interesting. You hope to reach that point where you're comfortable with, "I know what I know, but I am also very aware of what I do not know."

That attitude is just not as in evidence as you'd hope it'd be. For both students and professors. I read this book a really long time ago that went something along the lines of, "A man who has read a thousand books can be the most interesting companion, but a man who has read three books can be your most dangerous enemy."

People who learn a little bit, assume they know everything, and then it's just off to the races. Because they fuckin read a book. And I think it's why you see this kind of repetitive brainlessness in what are supposed to be educated environments. It's always the same words and phrases, arguments that feel plagiarized without any understanding of the foundations and origins of what they're discussing. They just don't have the knowledge base. It's all surface and sloganeering.

And it's so tired. Like if one more person says the word "decolonize" with no palpable knowledge of history, I'm going to find their parents and fine them for reproducing. They're the kind of people you talk to for ten seconds and realize, "Oh shit. They don't know anything."

And the thing is, it's not just students and/or protesters. Those you can kind of forgive. Limited knowledge and experience. I get it.

It's the adults that I cannot believe. I've had professors my age who are some of the dumbest people I have ever met. Just truly could not string together an argument if they tried. They're smart enough to get their degrees, but let's be honest. You do not have to be a towering intellect to get a degree. This shit is easy as sin. You just have to go through the motions and get that piece of paper. Then plop in with people who share your views, and you all promote each other into positions throughout the department.

I have been in classes over the past few years - electives in sociology, literature, and history I take for fun mainly - where the professors are so unaware of their lack of knowledge, so insistent on their ideologies, and so unwilling to engage in any debate or discussion, I have genuinely wondered if I should be reporting them somewhere. I shouldn't be in college classes looking at a professor and thinking, "Oh shit. I know more than them."

And I don't mean that in a cocky, puffed up overconfident student sort of way. I mean that as a fortysomething adult who's overeducated and realizes, no, a lot of these people do not know nearly as much as they ought to before they start teaching others.

STEM doesn't have this problem, though. All my STEM professors have been absolutely delightful. Because you actually kind of do have to know what you're talking about to advance there. It is unfortunately just not the case in the humanities these days. Just go through some published sociology papers some time. Within ten minutes, it becomes screamingly obvious how much nonsense they talk.

Eggs xactly. Learning a foreign language grows new neurons. GreenWave Apr 2024 #1
MAGA dumb fucks Botany Apr 2024 #2
Grabbing everything for yourself RIGHT NOW! is not an intelligent plan. Midnight Writer Apr 2024 #3
+1 Dave Bowman Apr 2024 #24
And so many DUers are truly exceptionally brilliant! BComplex Apr 2024 #4
"Humility: a trait found in intelligent people" BaronChocula Apr 2024 #18
..... BComplex Apr 2024 #21
I'm just about truth BaronChocula Apr 2024 #22
But, but... Dave Bowman Apr 2024 #28
You can find way more stable geniuses BaronChocula Apr 2024 #30
Lol, good one! :D Dave Bowman Apr 2024 #31
When I was in college a few years back NanaCat Apr 2024 #36
The framing here is pretty juiced Sympthsical Apr 2024 #5
"Still. I expect lotion sales to go up." Jedi Guy Apr 2024 #41
As usual, you are right on the money. yardwork Apr 2024 #42
It's pure Dunning Kruger Sympthsical Apr 2024 #47
True. ActRaiser Apr 2024 #6
...on both the left and the right. yardwork Apr 2024 #44
Hey y'all, we're brilliant! surfered Apr 2024 #7
This sounds comforting if one believes that IQ tests measure anything real. NNadir Apr 2024 #8
I hear you but it's not only based on IQ. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #9
Thanks. I should read but I won't. I have no interest in psychometric exercises about intelligence and lack time... NNadir Apr 2024 #10
Same here PatSeg Apr 2024 #17
People with intellect posses those same traits and qualities. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #25
Lots of different IQ test to measure multigraincracker Apr 2024 #12
Not quite true about Washington NanaCat Apr 2024 #37
I'm on the language spectrum. multigraincracker Apr 2024 #38
I totally agree, NNadir: people who are dyslexic are often very intelligent, but don't score well BComplex Apr 2024 #23
This article is NOT only about IQ. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #26
What ever intelligence is or isn't or related to, yonder Apr 2024 #29
Thanks, I was booted for making a true statement which in a way, is a happy thought. NNadir Apr 2024 #35
Perhaps, related more to open-mindedness & curiosity 1st and left-wing belief 2nd. Model35mech Apr 2024 #11
Headline says "correlation" eggplant Apr 2024 #13
Correlation does not imply causation. So I have heard. twodogsbarking Apr 2024 #19
Sometimes, powerful statistics multigraincracker Apr 2024 #32
even relatively simple statistics can suggest important associations Model35mech Apr 2024 #33
To be technical, correlation can imply or suggest causation. yardwork Apr 2024 #45
Epictetus twodogsbarking Apr 2024 #46
I see they quote Orwell at the end, which is good gulliver Apr 2024 #14
"the work is fraught" betsuni Apr 2024 #15
No surprise, there. cilla4progress Apr 2024 #16
More and more, it's being discovered our brains are wired differently Warpy Apr 2024 #20
It's obvious the gqp plays to simple minds who fear complexity lindysalsagal Apr 2024 #27
duh! malaise Apr 2024 #34
not falling for ridiculous propaganda seems like a low bar Skittles Apr 2024 #39
Figures don't lie. But liars figure. Seinan Sensei Apr 2024 #40
Seeing all sides Johnny2X2X Apr 2024 #43
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