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yagotme

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321. I'm sure "children" can be tried as an adult.

Mon Apr 15, 2024, 06:11 PM

Apr 2024

https://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/juvenile-tried-as-an-adult.html

Illinois: Illinois defines any individual who is under the age of 17 as a minor child. However, if a juvenile is a repeat offender or if they committed a serious crime, then they can be tried as an adult as early as the age of 13. Minors between the ages of 15 and 17 can be statutorily excluded and tried as an adult if they commit violent crimes, such as first-degree murder, armed robbery, or rape.

So, what's YOUR definition of a "child", so we can do an apples/apples study?

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No longer defending Israel [View all] angrychair Apr 2024 OP

I'm with you. Scrivener7 Apr 2024 #1

me too TomDaisy Apr 2024 #203

Luckily, President Biden doesn't agree TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #2

The quibbling over the word "genocide" reminds me of arguing about what type of gun was . . . . Stinky The Clown Apr 2024 #5

The word "genocide" has meaning TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #8

Ethnic cleansing, then. LuvLoogie Apr 2024 #20

Just as random and just as inapplicable. Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #70

It is literal, textbook ethnic cleansing obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #113

Whose textbook? Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #133

Oh stop. you always do this, and you know exactly what I mean obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #151

The rationalizing is appalling, no? BuddhaGirl Apr 2024 #169

Everyone forgets the 1940's and what Israeli population went through. jimfields33 Apr 2024 #183

Learned their lesson too well OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #186

Is this your take on the current conflict? yagotme Apr 2024 #261

I have not forgotten agalisgv Apr 2024 #223

You want me to stop asking you where you get your stuff so you can keep referring to Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #198

My Lai is not an equivalent BigmanPigman Apr 2024 #23

gen·o·cide /ˈjenəˌsīd/ quakerboy Apr 2024 #24

You do you, I'll do imprecise me Stinky The Clown Apr 2024 #26

Because the word is being murielm99 Apr 2024 #60

+1 betsuni Apr 2024 #66

If Israel doesn't want Palestine to garner the world's sympathy Sky Jewels Apr 2024 #80

If they supported the attacks on Israel, but didn't directly participate, they are still guilty. Lucky Luciano Apr 2024 #148

Oh, so the thousands of children and teens that Israel has maimed slaughtered and starved are guilty? Sky Jewels Apr 2024 #154

Be careful what you wish for OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #188

..even the children? whathehell Apr 2024 #225

Not the children. War is hell. Lucky Luciano Apr 2024 #234

Massacres are worse.. whathehell Apr 2024 #235

I think we need to seek the definition of "children" as Hamas sees it. yagotme Apr 2024 #262

I can't imagine why one would 'need' to do that, whathehell Apr 2024 #313

I'm sure there are some trial courts here in the US that would disagree with you, nt yagotme Apr 2024 #318

Lol..I'm not at all sure of that, whathehell Apr 2024 #320

I'm sure "children" can be tried as an adult. yagotme Apr 2024 #321

In this country.. whathehell Apr 2024 #322

The Israeli government is NOT synonymous with "the Jewish people" Sky Jewels Apr 2024 #89

Don't you dare say that I murielm99 Apr 2024 #90

Oh, that is what you said obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #114

I separated the two. murielm99 Apr 2024 #142

You are correct, as usual. Oopsie Daisy Apr 2024 #112

Apparently your argument is that the word Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #123

Thank you. By (incorrectly) using the loaded term "genocide", the interlocutor signals that ... AnrothElf Apr 2024 #170

There is no evidence that Israelis are bathing Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #171

Thank you. murielm99 Apr 2024 #174

+1 betsuni Apr 2024 #248

A one-sided war such as this sure looks a lot like genocide. No Palestinians were firing back at the IDF when they were TeamProg Apr 2024 #197

A real war? murielm99 Apr 2024 #205

THIS IS NOT A "WAR" - IT IS A MASSACRE! The casualty count is far, far too unbalanced to call this a "war". See::: TeamProg Apr 2024 #207

I am not going to read any more of your changing explanations murielm99 Apr 2024 #209

Hmmm, you are mistaken that I care about what you think of my posts. TeamProg Apr 2024 #210

The poster didn't give their own definition.. whathehell Apr 2024 #231

I agree. Butterflylady Apr 2024 #168

Genocide is Genocide TheCynic56 Apr 2024 #125

The UN never said that Israel is committing genocide lapucelle Apr 2024 #305

Read the UN definition of genocide. It describes Israel's actions. Lonestarblue Apr 2024 #135

No it doesn't. That's why the ICJ denied SA's demands for an immediate cessation lapucelle Apr 2024 #308

The same UN that determined in 2005 JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #311

the bombing might not b, but mopinko Apr 2024 #141

World Central Kitchen was in touch with the Israeli government . . . markpkessinger Apr 2024 #167

Okay, how about mass murder? whathehell Apr 2024 #216

Perhaps Hamas should have taken this into account BEFORE attacking Israel... yagotme Apr 2024 #263

Great analogy. Basic LA Apr 2024 #50

Thank you. Goddessartist Apr 2024 #134

If the ICJ ruled tomorrow it was a genocide.... TheRealNorth Apr 2024 #180

exactly. how many children are going to be smashed between floors of collapsed buildings TomDaisy Apr 2024 #204

They are starving Gaza to death angrychair Apr 2024 #6

WAR!! TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #11

Money angrychair Apr 2024 #16

Your suggestion would probably help wnylib Apr 2024 #63

Wasn't talking about given money to Hamas angrychair Apr 2024 #76

Yes, the Marshall Plan was an excellent program wnylib Apr 2024 #166

Wow the poster said nothing of the sort obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #116

Dunno. But I don't want my tax money going to Israel to allow it to continue. 3Hotdogs Apr 2024 #29

Pretty sure targeting relief workers dflprincess Apr 2024 #39

Not by wiping out every Palestinian in Gaza, KPN Apr 2024 #64

There are multiple international treaties that Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #94

Posters keep glossing over that obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #117

You are still excusing the slaughter obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #115

Starvation as a tactic of war is a war crime under the Rome Statute of the ICC markpkessinger Apr 2024 #173

Apparently there are some here Mossfern Apr 2024 #236

List those repeated attacks. Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #72

Dead journalists OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #190

Not only are you not citing sources, you are not even referring to the "they" Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #201

Citation OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #237

Thank you. This is what I was looking for. Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #244

Journalists are journalists OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #292

Sorry, there is a hell of a difference between propagandists and journalists. Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #296

Israel is waging war against... dchill Apr 2024 #12

How many bodies will be enough? Bayard Apr 2024 #18

The children of the holocaust did not hate Germans for the rest of their lives. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #73

They will rebuild Gaza BigMin28 Apr 2024 #107

You're right. Gaza could be an opportunity to rethink the whole "middle east vs western culture" conundrum. jaxexpat Apr 2024 #127

Not true OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #191

Wrong. Golda Meir did not hate Germans. She advocated for reconciliation. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #246

You may be right OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #290

I've met plenty of elderly Germans who still held a grudge. cab67 Apr 2024 #230

I don't think Netanyahu's plan involves Bettie Apr 2024 #138

1200 people, so kill 30k and starve the rest of them to death? AllyCat Apr 2024 #22

"Attacking unarmed civilians is beyond the pale no matter who does it." TBF Apr 2024 #28

No. Even if Hamas does it. If you reread my post, AllyCat Apr 2024 #105

He is trying to "root them out" - but I will agree with you that his methods do leave something TBF Apr 2024 #136

Strawman OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #192

If only that was true... nt sarisataka Apr 2024 #199

Actually a lot of folks are not only defending Hamas - TBF Apr 2024 #215

Rephrase OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #238

Hamas is the Political Leadership JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #314

DU is missing a downvote button. erodriguez Apr 2024 #48

I've thought that before and have come to think that that's probably a good thing. It seems to me that...... EarnestPutz Apr 2024 #62

Then Israel should not target aid workers. Trueblue Texan Apr 2024 #118

I've seen zero sympathy for Hamas on this board.. whathehell Apr 2024 #228

I hear you. I do. Semantics aside, there is an important point to make here. PatrickforB Apr 2024 #145

With all respect... appmanga Apr 2024 #159

Israeli's goal OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #185

So, the work permits Israel allowed Palestinians to enter Israel are fake news? yagotme Apr 2024 #264

See for yourself OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #289

From your post: yagotme Apr 2024 #291

From the article you cited OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #298

And they also allow for the betterment of Gazan citizens, yagotme Apr 2024 #319

Long term goal OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #299

So, the population of Israel is 100% Jewish descent by now, right? yagotme Apr 2024 #317

I hope you are mistaken. TomSlick Apr 2024 #229

Hamas was tacitly supported by the Israeli gov't radius777 Apr 2024 #271

Bibi really blew it this time. BigmanPigman Apr 2024 #3

I'm confident President Biden will continue to support TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #4

Hopefully not angrychair Apr 2024 #9

Well TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #13

It's hysterical you think Bibi is for democracy obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #122

He's for keeping Israel on the map which countries around it would rather they didn't exist jimfields33 Apr 2024 #259

'Our great ally Israel' MyOwnPeace Apr 2024 #14

Trying to eliminate Hamas and prevent future TexasDem69 Apr 2024 #15

The people of Gaza angrychair Apr 2024 #19

That is a good question. How many dead is enough? JanMichael Apr 2024 #36

The many times I've seen that question asked, MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2024 #295

Who, exactly, do you think Hamas is??? yagotme Apr 2024 #265

No, that is incorrect angrychair Apr 2024 #268

How is my assessment not accurate? yagotme Apr 2024 #270

You seem to have your mind made up angrychair Apr 2024 #275

As do you: yagotme Apr 2024 #280

"Anyone with a sense of decency fully supports Israel." MyOwnPeace Apr 2024 #27

None of us has the right to judge which of us has "a sense of decency." ShazzieB Apr 2024 #61

I have lots of decency but I absolutely do not support Phoenix61 Apr 2024 #111

I don't support the murder of innocent people obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #124

I used to support Israel TheCynic56 Apr 2024 #126

How dare you? I don't support what Israel is doing at all. Even my Israeli family doesn't support what Nanjeanne Apr 2024 #144

Speaking as someone with a sense of decency - cab67 Apr 2024 #232

I agree, it's time for ceasefire. yagotme Apr 2024 #266

I'm not laying all of this on the Israeli government or the IDL. cab67 Apr 2024 #286

I didn't say that you were. yagotme Apr 2024 #287

It is not revenge. It is war to eliminate a terrorist organization wnylib Apr 2024 #87

+1 betsuni Apr 2024 #92

Then he will lose on November obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #121

are you being sarcastic? LymphocyteLover Apr 2024 #161

What a great ally. NH Ethylene Apr 2024 #242

Only those JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #315

This is similar to our war in Iraq after 9/11 Yavin4 Apr 2024 #7

Good point, Bayard Apr 2024 #21

Correct. VicNEO Apr 2024 #44

No, Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist attack. Completely different. betsuni Apr 2024 #99

I said "similar to" not "exactly like". n/t Yavin4 Apr 2024 #211

And neither did Palestinians - Hamas is an Israeli puppet gov't radius777 Apr 2024 #272

Right. War against terrorism Easterncedar Apr 2024 #110

If Trump wins, it's gonna get worse. We also provide financial support on a 10 year basis. It's auto-renewed. LeftInTX Apr 2024 #132

Bad and worse OrangeJoe Apr 2024 #193

A Lancet survey found over 650,000 civilian deaths resulting from the unjust Iraq war Ponietz Apr 2024 #184

+1. Israel has already lost, as even Thomas Friedman radius777 Apr 2024 #273

DURec leftstreet Apr 2024 #10

You can no longer argue that Israel doesn't target civilians. patphil Apr 2024 #17

This is a turning point for both Biden and Bibi BigmanPigman Apr 2024 #25

Hear Hear! Many DUers are in this position. Basic LA Apr 2024 #54

I hear you. Goddessartist Apr 2024 #131

That's the spirit ! Basic LA Apr 2024 #155

Hang in there, you're doing great. AloeVera Apr 2024 #293

Thanks, I have to get grip Basic LA Apr 2024 #294

So glad to see you! Goddessartist Apr 2024 #307

Blessings to you as well, Goddessartist! AloeVera Apr 2024 #310

Good morning! Goddessartist Apr 2024 #316

Please try to understand creeksneakers2 Apr 2024 #30

There is no question that Biden has a perspective on things that is beyond our ability to see. Earth-shine Apr 2024 #33

I was always voting for Biden angrychair Apr 2024 #35

Yes. Especially among the young people. creeksneakers2 Apr 2024 #47

Gaza is a wasteland and unless the hostages were moved out of there Deuxcents Apr 2024 #31

It is not a matter of misplaced revenge Martin Eden Apr 2024 #32

BN's actions are what jeopardize the existence of Israel radius777 Apr 2024 #277

The purpose of the war is to destroy Hamas. madaboutharry Apr 2024 #34

Absolutely on purpose angrychair Apr 2024 #40

You are free to believe what you want. madaboutharry Apr 2024 #46

It's not what I believe angrychair Apr 2024 #49

How does executing WCK workers destroy Hamas? Voltaire2 Apr 2024 #96

Have to rec this with a post Mossfern Apr 2024 #239

Purposefully bypassing literally 5 layers of safeguards to kill one suspected gunman is not destroying Hamas ... uponit7771 Apr 2024 #300

Why isn't anyone putting pressure on Egypt to let Gazan women and children in so they can be safe and fed? SunSeeker Apr 2024 #37

That what Israel is trying to do angrychair Apr 2024 #41

Israel disengaged and forced all the Jewish settlers out of Gaza in 2005 so Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #52

It's not what you think angrychair Apr 2024 #55

What I think is that your reply shows no substance or logic to your claims. Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #59

I'm not Google. angrychair Apr 2024 #74

An opinion piece over 10 years old. Beastly Boy Apr 2024 #82

What is wrong with saving women and children from the fighting? SunSeeker Apr 2024 #67

You know that's Jared Kushner's idea, right? maxsolomon Apr 2024 #164

No, temporarily giving women and children sanctuary in Egypt is not Jared's idea. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #249

Egypt doesn't want ethnic cleansing under guise of humanitarianism. AloeVera Apr 2024 #181

Israel did not create this mess. Hamas did. Saving women and children is the opposite of ethnic cleansing. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #250

EC plus Collective Punishment under guise of humanitarianism AloeVera Apr 2024 #260

No, it is not collective punishment for Gaza men, anymore than it was for Ukrainian men. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #282

So they can leave and never return. Israel will never let them come back. IronLionZion Apr 2024 #58

No, so they can survive. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #65

The history of that region in the last 3-5 generations says otherwise. RockRaven Apr 2024 #79

What does any of that matter if they are dead? SunSeeker Apr 2024 #83

I'm not commenting on the value of their lives only the lack of evidence that RockRaven Apr 2024 #84

Don't their lives matter more than the potential risk to Palestinian nationalism? SunSeeker Apr 2024 #86

I repeat my previous reply. What you are saying to me is a repeated non sequitur. RockRaven Apr 2024 #93

It is not a "non sequitor." I am asking you a question you obviously don't want to answer. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #297

The history of the region does not justify letting women and children die in the crossfire of war. nt SunSeeker Apr 2024 #247

Of course it doesn't JUSTIFY it. And yet the historical record is awash in it. RockRaven Apr 2024 #251

Good, then we're in agreement that Egypt's refusal to temporarily let in Gazan women and children is unjustified. nt SunSeeker Apr 2024 #252

I have uttered no comment upon that, so it is odd to assert I agree with it. RockRaven Apr 2024 #253

So you're fine with Egypt building a wall and keeping Gazan women and children out? nt SunSeeker Apr 2024 #254

As previously with you, I repeat my previous reply in response to your RockRaven Apr 2024 #255

Your previous replies are not responsive to this question. This question calls for a yes or a no answer. nt SunSeeker Apr 2024 #256

Your question is unrelated to my original reply. Do you pose random questions RockRaven Apr 2024 #257

It's not a random, nor an unrelated question. You just don't want to answer it. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #258

lol obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #219

Israelis have killed almost 200 humanitarian aid workers have now been killed and at least 95 journalists and media summer_in_TX Apr 2024 #38

The UN figure is 180, and not all of them were killed by Israeli strikes. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #91

It's easier to make mistakes in the dark. summer_in_TX Apr 2024 #245

We only needed to look at the recent history of our own blood lust after 9-11. onecaliberal Apr 2024 #42

Fuck Israel d_b Apr 2024 #43

Fuck Hamas. EllieBC Apr 2024 #213

Link to where that poster or ANYONE on DU not a 50-post troll said that obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #220

Post removed Post removed Apr 2024 #227

I'm with you. AverageOldGuy Apr 2024 #45

That si very clever -- small arms ammo only obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #221

Did you ever? Behind the Aegis Apr 2024 #51

Go look at my posts angrychair Apr 2024 #56

Egypt, Lebanon? SunSeeker Apr 2024 #69

Point me to one. (I will look later, so just one) EDIT NEVERMIND, I looked... Behind the Aegis Apr 2024 #88

Those are not "attacks" angrychair Apr 2024 #139

Remember, lift with knees when moving goalposts. Behind the Aegis Apr 2024 #194

The search feature has been interesting to review posts from October 7. sarisataka Apr 2024 #143

I defended Israel on their Gaza invasion and attacks, up until I learned how they are restricting food so severely that LymphocyteLover Apr 2024 #162

the entire area makes me sick Skittles Apr 2024 #53

I cannot stop crying. To think that a people who have been persecuted would treat others so! emmacom Apr 2024 #57

You mean like the persecuted Palestinians who killed and raped teenage concert goers? SunSeeker Apr 2024 #68

Holocaust enid602 Apr 2024 #95

How sad that you cannot stop crying, but welcome to DU. lapucelle Apr 2024 #309

This is the aftermath of 10/07-The day Hamas broke the ceasefire. sheshe2 Apr 2024 #312

If Biden loses to Trump... Xolodno Apr 2024 #71

No, we left Vietnam because we lost. SunSeeker Apr 2024 #75

Well, I'll respond to this. Xolodno Apr 2024 #77

Yep claudette Apr 2024 #78

Yeah, I'm sure you were supporting Israel before Mountainguy Apr 2024 #81

The US supports Israel, what else is new? akbacchus_BC Apr 2024 #100

I support the Israel that is currently taking to the streets trying to hold Netenyahu responsible for actions tirebiter Apr 2024 #85

The indefensible cannot be defended. Israel has lost the moral high ground. It's gone elocs Apr 2024 #97

I agree with you. Israel wants Gaza and netenyahu is cruel to do what hitler did to jews as akbacchus_BC Apr 2024 #98

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you malaise Apr 2024 #101

Then the scorpion said to the kind frog: ''I couldn't resist, it's my nature" Donkees Apr 2024 #102

Correct is right malaise Apr 2024 #103

Seems Nethanyahu should try to swim on his own Donkees Apr 2024 #104

Enough is enough Raven123 Apr 2024 #106

K&R Doc Sportello Apr 2024 #108

The same people calling me "pro-Hamas" RandiFan1290 Apr 2024 #109

Israel has killed tens of thousands, "mostly women and children". mwb970 Apr 2024 #119

All Israelis? JustAnotherGen Apr 2024 #120

It has seem to taken a turn Johnny2X2X Apr 2024 #128

I actually don't think N is after revenge. I think he's after land Scrivener7 Apr 2024 #130

I don't think that Johnny2X2X Apr 2024 #137

Hamas has achieved its goal SARose Apr 2024 #129

Israel was on the verge of Arab world countries recognizing Israel. Thanks to Bibi, that is not going to happen RAB910 Apr 2024 #146

I had forgotten that SARose Apr 2024 #214

+1, Hamas is meeting its goal and Bibi is helping them at every step uponit7771 Apr 2024 #304

Idiot homicidal maniacs are making the world forget Oct. 7 dalton99a Apr 2024 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Apr 2024 #149

Post removed Post removed Apr 2024 #147

This knee jerk slur really doesn't work in this situation anymore. Scrivener7 Apr 2024 #150

I missed the post, but I bet I know what it said obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #152

Yep. I bet you do too. Scrivener7 Apr 2024 #175

Five prohibited acts atreides1 Apr 2024 #153

K&R It saddens me to read denials of reality here, the deliberate and desperate attempt to deflect from the point msfiddlestix Apr 2024 #156

Yea it's sad so many people are myopic one issue voters BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #165

Agree completely. I have good friends who are making the ME War their political hill to die on. msfiddlestix Apr 2024 #195

These 1-issue voters were just waiting for a fucking reason to hate Biden and tee-off on Jews in the process. Sick shit. SoFlaBro Apr 2024 #241

100 percent true BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #269

Self-governance sindri Apr 2024 #157

For me it's not about defending Israel. ismnotwasm Apr 2024 #158

This is not a war. This is vengeance. This is a slaughter by starvation and disease. Big Blue Marble Apr 2024 #178

No, it isn't. ismnotwasm Apr 2024 #187

And Israel has been killing and abusing Palestinians Big Blue Marble Apr 2024 #240

And Palestinians have been killing Israelis' before Hamas, too. yagotme Apr 2024 #267

Many more Palestinians have been killed radius777 Apr 2024 #274

Then I guess that Israel is so much better than Palestinian terrorists yagotme Apr 2024 #276

Israel is well funded by the west radius777 Apr 2024 #279

Hamas is well funded/supplied by Iran. yagotme Apr 2024 #281

Hamas is funded by Iran and Qatar, radius777 Apr 2024 #283

Hamas doesn't want a 2-state solution, either. yagotme Apr 2024 #284

Of course, that's why Bibi propped up Hamas, radius777 Apr 2024 #285

Yes it is ... The Chef has more credibility than Bibi or Biden on this issue. Reality has to set in at some point uponit7771 Apr 2024 #301

Yes. Please contact the White House about this. LymphocyteLover Apr 2024 #160

Meh BannonsLiver Apr 2024 #163

Israel has done a masterful job of of squandering both public opinion and the undisputed high ground they held. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2024 #172

So nothing about the Hamas hostages? Mosby Apr 2024 #176

That people are dying of starvation angrychair Apr 2024 #179

Hamas is stealing most of the food aid. Mosby Apr 2024 #288

A person can believe The Chef and want hostages to be freed, no one should support starving millions of people for uponit7771 Apr 2024 #303

I realized it way early on when Netanyahu said that all Gaza's people were Hamas. He earlier had LiberalArkie Apr 2024 #177

There will be no development on Gaza Beaches. Not without the world watching!! MenloParque Apr 2024 #182

Agreed Deep State Witch Apr 2024 #189

We ALL KNEW this was coming. Israel was NOT going to stop at just bombing a 'few hospitals', right? nt TeamProg Apr 2024 #196

It's not a "war" it is a MASSACRE. nt TeamProg Apr 2024 #200

I'm getting there. It's like Dresden in slow motion. carpetbagger Apr 2024 #202

I consider Dresden a war crime by us, but it wasn't really one then obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #224

And I didn't consider the opening Israeli response as such. carpetbagger Apr 2024 #243

Same yankee87 Apr 2024 #206

Slobodan had PLENTY of supporters as well. nt TeamProg Apr 2024 #208

Some of the detailed and convoluted reasoning seen here to justify Aussie105 Apr 2024 #212

Very well said obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #226

Post removed Post removed Apr 2024 #217

If you disagree, why not just answer? obamanut2012 Apr 2024 #218

I get it agalisgv Apr 2024 #222

+1, The Chef has been in more than one conflict and knows when his people are being targeted uponit7771 Apr 2024 #302

same Evolve Dammit Apr 2024 #233

I stopped in the 90's RANDYWILDMAN Apr 2024 #278

Me too. Goddessartist Apr 2024 #306